Ep.074 Spiritual Detox: Stop Just One Thing and Become Even More Spiritually Awake! Spiritual teacher reveals the process that has helped him overcome limits and blocks.

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Ep.074 Spiritual Detox: Stop Just One Thing and Become Even More Spiritually Awake! Spiritual teacher reveals the process that has helped him overcome limits and blocks.
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Episode synopsis TL;DR:

Join spiritual teacher and author Mark as he discusses the power beliefs have, how we create our identities. Spiritual detoxing is a process in which you can consciously overcome self-limiting beliefs to grow in your level of spirituality. A really powerful episode that can help you to understand yourself and your choices better.

Episode transcript:

==== INTRODUCTION ====

[00:00:03] Thank you for joining me for episode 74 of the live show recorded on 28 August 2025.

[00:00:12] The kind of running title of this episode is Spiritual Detox. But what we’re really getting into here is the kind of foundations of beliefs and also identity. And obviously this is something that’s very personal and touches upon the very core of who we are as people.

[00:00:33] And throughout this episode, I’m going to be sharing stuff that some of it may relate to you, some of it might not, but certainly the goal here is to go on a journey together. This isn’t about looking at what other people do, or even what we do, but with any kind of judgment, but more to understand how we got to where we got to, so that we can let go of what perhaps no longer helps us and recognize the truth.

[00:01:07] I won’t go into what that is. I’m hoping that throughout this episode that will become clear to you. But as ever, if this episode evokes any questions or you want me to go into more detail on anything that I bring up, then please do get in touch and we can always include it in one of the future live shows. The last thing I’ll say is that there’s a lot of supporting images for this episode. So do click on the link, jump through to the website and you’ll see some of the things. Because obviously this is an audio podcast. You’ll see some of the things that I’m alluding to visually and that will help with the understanding.

[00:01:44] But I would invite you now to join me in enjoying episode 74. God bless foreign.

==== SHOW BEGINS ====

[00:01:58] Good evening, everyone. The reason why I’m laughing is the comments in the chat. Apologies for the slight delay. There’s. There was a fireworks show going on about 500 meters from here and literally it was loud anyway. And now the music started, which is why I’m laughing. And my, my job tonight is not to sing along, but we are here. It’s episode 74. You’ve joined me. I’m grateful for that.

[00:02:23] And all joking aside, I’m just going to read out what I wrote in the chat because it’s, it’s, it’s relevant to, to why we’re here, basically. And I, I, we’re talking about the background noise. And I said, but it’s not about that. It’s about joining together as a spiritual people to learn, share and inspire. So if you’ve joined us tonight, then thank you, because we can all learn from each other. Just make the text bigger so we can all see it and someone said, yeah, well, at least you’re not on YouTube, just in case the copyright for the music becomes an issue.

[00:03:02] But look, if that’s the biggest issue we face in life, then we’re doing okay.

[00:03:09] Now, tonight’s show is to answer a question that came up two weeks ago in a one of the kind of forum online meetups that we do.

[00:03:21] And let me just bring up the artwork for today’s show and I first of all, I apologize to the person asked question because I know it’s the summer holidays and I know they can’t be here tonight to join us, but they’ll be able to listen again to the podcast, watch again on Rumble, as can you.

[00:03:41] And this picture that I put up, I deliberated about it and I thought, no, I’m going to use myself because the topics tonight are going to be quite, let’s say, spiritually mature.

[00:03:54] And I thought the kindest way to do this is to use myself as an example rather than to use anyone else.

[00:04:04] But it speaks to the heart of everyone who’s a spiritual seeker of truth.

[00:04:08] And to demonstrate that that also applies to me, I thought, right, well, I’ll make myself the example so that there’s no kind of sense of it being preachy or, well, you know, talking down at anyone.

[00:04:26] Really what I’m doing is I’m talking from the pain of my own experiences about stuff that is potential mistakes that we all make and if only we knew we could do something about it, we could learn and grow and, and we could avoid them and become more spiritual quicker.

[00:04:46] And that is kind of answering the question, oh, I don’t know why we’ve drawn a red line on the screen there. So let’s just do that and press that and that should disappear.

[00:04:57] So episode 74, 28th of August 2025 background music courtesy of the local farm who’s hosting some kind of private function concert.

[00:05:09] And what is the why is that still drawing dots everywhere? What is the goal for tonight’s show? Well, coming up, time for growth.

[00:05:20] How much opportunity for growth is there? And by growth, I am referring to spiritual growth.

[00:05:26] Why is it so complicated?

[00:05:29] You could also change that to be why do we make it so complicated?

[00:05:34] Are we holding ourselves back?

[00:05:37] Spiritual detox, which I think’s really going to be invaluable to people and something I wish I kind of understood years ago.

[00:05:46] But better late than never. And ultimately, so what can we do?

[00:05:51] So let’s get into the actual question and some of you may recognize this because you were in that meetup, but Someone asks, since we have multiple incarnations over which we grow, as in spiritually growing, then is there a limit to the amount of spiritual growth we can achieve in one lifetime? And I understand the logic behind that because it’s kind of saying, okay, look, say we’re going to incarnate.

[00:06:18] I’m going to deliberately choose a random number 720 times, okay? And there’s where we start in terms of our spiritual growth. And is where we end, is the goal that we get to the end on the last incarnation? Assume. Well, that’s an assumption, that there is a loss, but at that number of incarnations, in which case are we supposed to do 1 720th of our growth in each life? Is that how it’s supposed to work?

[00:06:43] Or could we do it all in one life? You know, and that really, I think, is the meat and bones of the question.

[00:06:50] And by the way, I’m deliberately wearing the you can handle the truth T shirt tonight because this, this is all about truth. And, you know, all joviality aside and, you know, distractions, this is real. This is spiritual stuff that, yeah, is fundamentally always comes down to truth. And I’m going to share a quote.

[00:07:18] Everyone’s spiritual until their beliefs meet the truth.

[00:07:22] And, you know, take a moment to ponder on that.

[00:07:26] I salute you if you’re listening, if you’re watching, whether you’re live with me right now or joining me afterwards, I salute you because you’re here looking for the truth. And that actually takes a lot of courage.

[00:07:40] You’ll see, we’ll get into it. But there’s a lot that people do and believe that is spiritual.

[00:07:48] But there is an absolute truth behind it all. And, well, the whole topic tonight really is going to be centered around that quote and understanding it and learning how to work with it, because it takes courage. It really does take courage, as well as other qualities of character to actually truly be spiritual.

[00:08:14] And that’s why we’re here, to truly be spiritual or to be even more spiritual.

[00:08:18] So I think that’s enough of a preamble.

[00:08:22] Let us get on with the show.

[00:08:28] So a couple of terms I’ve highlighted of underlined the word incarnate, incarnations. And also spiritual growth is bold and lifetime because I think they’re the key words that we should perhaps define better so that we, we’re all on the same page to move forwards and look, it’s a straw man definition. You can poke around with it. You can find your own meaning in it.

[00:08:55] That’s cool. Okay, so incarnation, when your soul Spirit, aura, brackets higher self.

[00:09:02] There’s more than that, but that’s just keeping it simple. In other words, when your higher self came into your body to live on the third dimension brackets physical realm, for the purpose of experiencing the outcome of free will. Now, there’s some implied stuff in that our higher self isn’t necessarily of the physical realm. And certainly soul, spirit and aura are not things you can physically touch, poke and prod, but they came into our body so that they can for the purpose of experiencing the outcome of our free will. Okay, there’s a lot in that, but we’ve done a lot on free will. And so I’ll take it that if, you know, if you want to learn more about any of these things, then go to the website and literally type the word you’re looking for, like free will into the search box at the top and you’ll find the articles and the episodes where we’ve talked about free will, spiritual growth, when we use our free will in order to make the right choice. And as a result our soul experiences being good and, and becomes more good, ultimately making us desire that which is absolutely good. Bracket, spiritual, ergo, God the source. Now, again, lots to unpack there. And I underscored right choice.

[00:10:19] We talked about good, bad, right and wrong in the last episode and I deliberately didn’t shy away in this episode of using the phrase the right choice.

[00:10:30] And again, to dive more into what, what does right and wrong mean from a spiritual point of view, then definitely check out that episode. And all the links to all the episodes that I reference will eventually be in the write up notes for the audio podcast. So you’ll be able to follow that. And I’ll put a link to that audio podcast in the actual description of this video.

[00:10:55] Now, ultimately making us desire that which is absolutely good spiritual, ergo, God the source. So you can simmer that down to ultimately, it’s our desire for God.

[00:11:07] Okay.

[00:11:09] And then the last thing, lifetime. And I’ve put in this context, as in within the bounds and the context of this question, because it’s about spiritual growth specifically.

[00:11:20] So it doesn’t include, believe it or not, your spiritual lifetime doesn’t really include the first 10 or so years. It really starts to warm up round about 11 years old until you physically die permanently. So obviously, if you are one of the 2 million or so people that have had near death experiences or have died and then been resuscitated, that wasn’t the end of your spiritual lifetime. Your spiritual lifetime is your permanent physical death.

[00:11:49] Or when you get to 84.

[00:11:52] Now, again, it’s one of those, I’m not going to go too much into it, but there is something significant that happens when you’re 84. And it doesn’t mean that there’s no more value to life or anything, just as there’s plenty of value to life for the first 10 years. It’s just that there’s a certain cutoff in terms of the involvement of certain aspects of your higher self that by the time you get to 84, if you haven’t figured stuff out, then there’s probably little guidance to do any more work at that point.

[00:12:25] And that may well just be a grace to allow us to simmer down nicely at the end. Just as we’re given a period at the start to just get familiar with the physical body and the physicality of everyday life down here.

[00:12:39] So now we defined a few things.

[00:12:43] There’s a nice picture to explain what I’ve just defined.

[00:12:47] You’re born.

[00:12:49] Let me see if I can find my pointer. There it is. Okay, so you’re born here and there’s a simple graph on the screen. I’ll share it in the write up notes. And roundabout 11, you start to have free will, responsibility, accountability.

[00:13:04] At 12 it starts to ramp up a bit more, but it doesn’t really reach its potential until 18.

[00:13:11] So the stuff before you’re 18 would be more, it’s more about if you turn really bad in that period of time. So by example I mean say you were brought up and you knew about God and you knew about Jesus. And I don’t mean religion, I mean you had, you had a sense that Jesus was special and that God is something that’s there, right? So if you had that kind of awareness and you at the age of 12 or 13 or 14, through your own choice, you’re growing free will. It’s kind of like it’s nascent, but it’s starting to become active when. No, don’t want any of that. Absolutely not. I want, you know, and say you said something like I want Satan or the devil or whatever, even if it was foolish, if you meant it, then there’s a kind of a problem that gets developed. So from a spiritual point of view, that would set you back quite considerably.

[00:14:10] And the point I’m making here is so although the real journey doesn’t start till you’re 18, you’re accountable for harsh choices, choices in the wrong direction prior to that, from about the age of 11 or 12, it’s round about when you actually start to Also develop ego in its true sense and therefore the capacity to choose the wrong things and stuff like that and go against your higher kind of your higher nature. And so, you know, ideally this line, this graph really starts 18, but what I’m showing is that there is a tapering in for harsh consequences.

[00:14:52] And at no point in any of this is the goal fear mongery or anything like that. The goal is just truth.

[00:15:02] You can handle the truth. It’s written here.

[00:15:05] And the purpose is that how can you really exercise your free will if you don’t at least understand some of the parameters or some of the consequences?

[00:15:17] You know, it’s like people take medicine, okay, but how many of them read the small print, what this could do to them? So they’re not really exercising choice, they’re just trusting blindly a doctor or a company.

[00:15:33] Free will is exercise when you go, hang on, I’ve read the small print and if I take this, it has all these side effects and actually I need to avoid certain foods. If I also take this and now I’m informed, I can make a more informed choice about what I do from that perspective. That’s just a kind of trivial example, but that’s why I’m kind of laying stuff out as honestly as possible. And a lot of this information is taken 40 plus years to figure out. And so I’m trying to save you having to do that amount of hard work to get to a point where you understand. And so you know, if you’re a parent and you understand that it is important what your children understand and that they are starting to develop free will, responsibility and accountability from the age of 11, although they only mature into it at the age of 18. I, I think that’s invaluable information for a parent, an auntie, an uncle, or just a citizen of the world.

[00:16:35] So now we understand some of the definition and the kind of framing of the question, then let’s have a look at that. Because the whole reason where I’m going with this is when that person asked me the question, my instinct was, wasn’t to answer their question so much as to counter with a question which came to me. And it was, they’re saying, is there a limit to the amount of growth you can do in one lifetime? And no spoilers. The answer is no, but it’s almost a trivial answer because I pointed out, well the question, the real question is, what’s stopping me from growing a massive amount in this lifetime?

[00:17:23] You know, why, why does it have to be eked out over so many lifetimes. Is there something we can do or learn that can actually rapidly accelerate our growth? And the answer is yes. And that’s the actual meat and gravy of this, this show tonight.

[00:17:40] So let’s get to the meat and the gravy.

[00:17:48] Right, A quick reminder. So this is about the average human being’s awake focus. So in those moments when they are awake, spirit, you know what I mean by that is present enough to be able to exercise their free will. I don’t mean just whether they’re asleep or up in bed, but actually able to exercise free will, which requires a certain amount of presence.

[00:18:11] Then this is the typical distribution of a human on the planet at this time. And we covered this in the last episode, so I’ll very quickly skim over it. But the mind is the dominant big yellow section, which is about.

[00:18:29] I think we actually do have some figures coming up. Let’s see. Yeah, so the mind is at 58% of that time is mind awareness or mind focus.

[00:18:39] Body focus is 15%. Spirit focus is just 3%. Emotions take up 21% of the typical person’s attention. And other is 3%.

[00:18:50] Episode 73 to learn more. But that is quite fascinating stuff. So that was just a quick reminder because what we’re saying is 3% of the awake time for the average human is spiritual focus. That means 97% of the time they’re focused on those other things. Mind, body, emotion, other.

[00:19:12] So how much of that, how much of our time are we actually awake? And again, this is the average. So for you it might be that you’re awake a lot more, or for some people it might be a lot less.

[00:19:24] But what’s the average? Because the average line is always the one that’s closest to the most. Okay, so how much of the time are we actually awake? And it transpires that the average human is awake. And I kind of say awake in air quotes there about 30% of the time. So that means on a 24 hour day, in a 24 hour window, it would be about 1/3 of that, about 8 hours.

[00:19:46] Okay, so if we live to be 84, if and it’s. And it being spiritual potential growth, you know, starts properly at 18, then we have 84 minus 18 equals 66 years. So we have a window of 66 years theoretically to do our spiritual growth in.

[00:20:08] But we own only wake 30% of those 66 years.

[00:20:12] And so it transpires the actual time is about 19.8 awake years.

[00:20:18] Okay, but hang on a sec. But it’s only 3% of that time of awake time that we’re actually spiritually focused. So 3% of 19.8 awake years is just 0.594 of a year, which is 7 months, 3 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes and 36 seconds. And we’ve lost, I say 6 seconds. Me just reading that out.

[00:20:41] So what am I trying to impress on us?

[00:20:45] This, I’m not saying you. What I’m saying is the average, the average person, if they live to 84, would have only been spiritually focused in that entire 84 year window for about 7 months, 3 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes. That’s less time than most people spend in education. A lot less.

[00:21:06] You know, certainly a lot less than they spend in bed and a lot less than they spend at work.

[00:21:12] So that’s a bit of a hint about, well, what is limiting our spiritual growth. Okay, but spirituality, remember what it simmered down to was a desire for God. We said something like, it’s the desire for goodness and therefore the source of goodness, which is God. Okay, so we can simmer it down to desire for God.

[00:21:34] And when it, when it comes to spirituality, if you start googling spirituality, spirituality on the tinterweb, or talking to people about spirituality, then this is, these are the kind of things you’re going to encounter. And hands up the reason why my picture is on the front, you know, with the hat on and holding a crystal. And that hat wasn’t actually real. I kind of put that on using graphics.

[00:21:58] But the point is that me too, I’ve been in this picture as well. So when you talk to people about spirituality and you know, I’ve taught a lot of people over a long period of time and met many people and being taught by many people and the journey isn’t over yet, this is what you tend to encounter. So this is just some of the stuff that falls under the umbrella of spiritual.

[00:22:23] Now I’ve said it’s a desire for God, but what about crystals, hypnosis, nlp, rebirthing, past life regressions, things like that? Scrying now as I do this. So we’ve done crystals, scrying, hypnosis and lp.

[00:22:39] Keep tally, genuinely keep a tally of how many of these you’ve done. Even if it’s just a little bit, how many of these have you partaked in so far in your life?

[00:22:50] There’s no judgment.

[00:22:52] I’m going to be completely honest about my own journey throughout this whole process. But I’m just curious. It’s kind of like spiritual bingo. Okay, so so far there’s three there.

[00:23:06] Just keep count.

[00:23:07] And when I get to the end of this, quickly write in the chat how many, or write it in the comments afterwards. How many of them you actually identified with as something that you’ve done spiritually, whether it’s something you still do, even if it’s just something from the past, if you’ve done it in the past or you’re still doing it and you know, as a spiritual practice, just count it. Okay, so we got crystals, hypnosis, NLP, rebirth, scrying, tarot, and I put tarot, etc. So it might be angel cards, oracle cards, those kinds of things, but it’s basically divination through some form of card chanting, sound baths. You could also add a mantra to that. There’s limited space for me to write in each of these boxes, so I try to group things together.

[00:23:57] Tai Chi or qigong, or you could do Falun Gong or those kinds of body posture, meditative things, Reiki, telepathy, psychometry, psychic work, generally tantra magic. And I’ve spelled it with a G and sorry, with a C and a K. And you could also have with a J.

[00:24:21] So all variations and along the theme of magic, whether it’s big magic, little magic, white magic, dark magic, magic, basically angel healing.

[00:24:33] And again that there’s also forms of angel reiki healing or, you know, But I’m just picking out some of the things that I’ve encountered or that people I’ve worked with have been doing okay. Astrology, yoga, rituals and spells. So let me explain that one because you might think, no, I haven’t done that. Have you ever had a vision board where you put pictures of things that you want to bring into your life that symbolize your future life? Have you ever written a list of stuff that you want to let go of and then set fire to it ritualistically and throwing it in the wastepaper basket? Have you ever set up like a mini altar or something with tokens and.

[00:25:18] And kind of put it on your mantelpiece to bring stuff in or ward stuff away from your home and your life? You know, sometimes these things, we don’t realize they’re rituals or spells, but we do them and hands up, you know, been there.

[00:25:34] So rituals, spells, enchantments, those kinds of things. Writing stuff down, putting it in an envelope, posting it to yourself, all these kinds of things.

[00:25:45] Lsd, dmt, medicine. So within that is all the pot, Ayahuasca, Ibo, all of those kinds of things.

[00:25:56] In other words, DMT is one of the active Ingredients. LSD is another variant on that. But basically mind expanding pursuits, chemically induced spirituality, shamanic work. So you might have been on a course where they do things like a guided meditation and you go into a cave and you meet your spirit animal guide, that kind of stuff. Or you find out what animal toten is yours and you know that that’s the softer end of it. But anything shamanic, what just popped up there. Manifesting the Secret. So I talked a lot about that in various podcasts. You know, if you’ve been following, you know that I’ve done a lot of that work in the past. So anything to do with Law of Attraction, the teachings of Abraham, manifestation work, vision, you know, the Secret is a famous film and book based on that.

[00:26:47] Astral projection, any form of religion, mindfulness, Wiccan. So that would be. Which is warlocks, the Wiccan traditions and the work that goes there, Siddhi powers. That’s probably something a lot of people haven’t heard of, but that’s more from the Indian side. And that’s developing various forms of power, including levitation through advanced forms of energy work, breath and stuff like that.

[00:27:17] Anything like sun gazing, moon bathing, worshiping, nature Gaia, that kind of nature orientated focus. So I’ve just put sun, moon, nature, Gaia and Buddhism is another one. Remote viewing.

[00:27:36] Talked about that actually in the Burden of Proof series. But yeah, interesting stuff.

[00:27:41] Mediumship, that P should be on the same line, but there we go. So me anything to do with mediumship. So that’s contacting the dead, but also allowing the dead to possess you so that they can talk through you.

[00:27:53] Spirit guides are talking to beings on higher dimensions who you believe are your spirit guides. And I think I said a few weeks back I bumped into a lady who is an author and writes books that are given to her by her spirit guides.

[00:28:08] Kundalini work.

[00:28:10] It’s quite a big list.

[00:28:12] Visualizations.

[00:28:14] So there’s groups that get together and do visualizations of grids and pyramids and things like that, structures of energy.

[00:28:24] But also people do visualizations to bring about change within themselves, visualizing things and trying to make them more real. It goes kind of hand in hand with the manifesting work. And last one I’ve got there is meditation. And I will draw a line, a distance distinction between higher and lower forms of meditation, but I’ll keep it vague. Okay, so 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. 1, 2, 3, 4th, 5. So 30 different things. And I’m sure we could think of more. But I’d be curious out of those 30 kind of tiles that I’ve put on the screen, how many you can relate to as something that you’ve done as opposed to not?

[00:29:08] And I don’t know if you’ve been following, but hang on a sec. We can’t see what was originally written there. It’s being completely blocked over by all of these things are all, you know, things that people do as spiritual pursuits.

[00:29:25] So what’s going on now, by the way? I said total transparency and total honesty.

[00:29:31] You’ll notice that a lot of the stuff is in darker green with white writing and some of it is in lighter green. So all the stuff in darker green are things I’ve done.

[00:29:43] Some of it, in fact, quite a lot of it is things I’ve taught. Some of it I’ve even been paid for. So I used to get paid to do tarot and astrology. I’ve taught, although I’m not a yoga teacher officially, I’ve taught yoga in Italy and then I’ve done various teachings of quite a few of those things and I’ve also practiced them myself to certain degrees. So, for example, the NLP hypnosis stuff, again, I did for a while work as a spoken word therapist and people would come and pay and sit in my little treatment room for that. But I’ve also trained a lot in it as well.

[00:30:24] Spirit guides. Yeah. Crystals. Yep. You saw the picture on the front cover. That’s me holding a massive quartz point.

[00:30:33] So in other words, there’s no scoffing or judging. I’ve done most of the things on this list and I would be interested if you put anything in the chat, if you want to give me a number of how many of those things you’ve done, ballpark if you’re not sure, but I will press on because isn’t it strange that there is so much spiritual doing going on? And I remind us that the average human being’s awake focus is only 3% spiritual, so. And yet. Hang on a sec. But there’s all these different things and people put a lot of energy and time into it.

[00:31:14] So. Okay, just jumping into the chat because people are overthinking things a little bit. So does it count if you’ve done something but it wasn’t meant to be spiritual, but done more out of interest? For example, I’ve done NLP. Yeah, it counts.

[00:31:29] Samaragold0 is saying in the past 18, yeah, a lot of the stuff that I did, I wasn’t thinking I am being spiritual, but there was a spiritual undertone to it. So for example, in even some of the NLP courses, they did shamanic work and visualizations to meet your guardian animal and things like that. So it depends what courses you did and who the guest present was. But yeah, if you’ve done any of these things, whether you realized it or not, I’m just curious to know what, what you’ve encountered because this is the thing. There’s an innocence. There’s no judgment, there’s an innocence. So what I’m getting at here is, and it is important actually, at the end of this show, your understanding of some of the things may have shifted, which means that if you were to do them at the end of the show, it’s a different connotation to doing them without the information.

[00:32:34] So there’s, like I said, rituals. There’s a lot of rituals we’ve probably done with, you know, being encouraged to write stuff down that you want to let go of and then throw it away, scrunch up, throw it away, or set fire to it and release the energy and all of these things. And I bet most people didn’t think, oh, I’m now doing spells, but they were, you know, so there’s an innocence to it.

[00:32:59] And yeah, I mean, and username. What, saying 6 or 7.

[00:33:06] Let’s go to the chat. 6 or 7. But it never quite felt quite right for me. Yeah, I mean, my going back to the list, I think I’ve done 25.

[00:33:17] So there’s no, there’s no judgment here. It’s just, you know, interesting to see what we’ve encountered as spiritual people on a spiritual journey. And it draws my draws to the point of, isn’t it strange that there’s so much spiritual doing going on?

[00:33:34] Okay, so I want to clarify that grid of things because it kind of gives a bit of a clue as to why there’s so much stuff going on.

[00:33:44] So you can see that. And I’ll put this up on the, in the notes for the people that are listening only, but this image will be available. But basically Reiki, mindfulness, shamanism, scrying, mediumship, Buddhism, religion, astral, projecting, remote viewing, hypnosis, telepathy, ritual spells, manifesting, there’s a lot, astrology, siddhi, power, spirit guides, all of that is mind based.

[00:34:09] The crystals, tantra, tai chi, qi gong, Kundalini, yoga, lsdmt, chanting, sound bath is predominantly body based. I say predominantly because, look, there could be an emotional element, there could be a, you know, spiritual or mind element. But what I’ve colored these in is to indicate what’s the dominant part of you that’s being engaged with. And for example, angel healing and sun gazing is quite emotional in its effect. What part of you is it resonating?

[00:34:43] So it’s quite interesting that the massive dominance is mind, which isn’t spiritual. And yet these things appear to be spiritual, you know, or we, we more accurately believe them to be spiritual.

[00:35:00] And there’s no judgment as to whether or not they’re good or bad. But it’s simply if we’re intending to be spiritual, are they spiritual? Would be a good question. So I want to take us to this because this is us. Here’s a picture of us on the left. Sorry, my drawing skills on a computer aren’t great. And on the right hand side of the picture is what looks like a yellow glow. And that’s an abstract representation of the pinnacle of spirituality. So symbolizing God. Now obviously God can’t have a color and God doesn’t have a location and etc. But it’s indicating that we’re aiming for something, the, the, the desire, the love for God. And Millie in the chat, by the way has just said that. 16.

[00:35:48] So we got arranged 6 or 7. 18, 16. So yeah, that’s kind of what, what I would expect. And yeah, I. And the interesting thing is it gets, by asking the question, it’s not just what you do, you do now, but what have you done? It just gets us to remember, which is useful certainly for this.

[00:36:12] And there’s a question, what’s the difference between a sound bath and music?

[00:36:15] So sound bath is when you normally it’s done with singing bowls or those.

[00:36:25] You know, I used to do sound bath work when I was doing mantra work with people where I’d actually intone the sound through my own voice. But you get a resonance going and so you can resonate the heart chakra or you know, the solar plexus or, you know, so it doesn’t just have to be like a mechanical cause, like a bell or a cymbal or drums. It can be an actual voice as well. But the idea is it’s specific frequencies to resonate chakras. That’s the fundamental basics of it. Whereas music is a lot of different frequencies, so it can have sympathetic effects if you do music. And for example, when I trained as a kinesiologist, we did a lot of work looking at the kind of frequency range, not, not looking at the actual frequency range, but working with music, classical music, like back, because it was found to be very curative. And so if you played back or bark in the waiting room while someone was coming into for a treatment, then a lot of their lesser symptoms, their secondary symptoms, not the main ones, would disappear, which would help you focus on the actual issues and symptoms because they won’t be amassed by secondary symptoms. So, you know, music can have an effect, but again, don’t overthink it. So if the intention was to bathe yourself in sound, whether it was chant, Gregorian chanting, or someone intoning a particular resonance frequency or bell or chime or something, then that would kind of be in that bracket of sound bars and things like that.

[00:38:00] But getting back to this picture, I’m going to jump over to this so that I can kind of talk you through a little story.

[00:38:10] Now we’ve got you here on the left, and we’ve got the goal, which is the spiritual goal, to be closer to God, to be more.

[00:38:19] To seek that which is the cause of all that is good. What’s behind everything?

[00:38:24] You know, keeping it simple, I’d rather you use your own words. That’s the goal on the right, and there’s you on the left and.

[00:38:32] Oh, hang on a sec. What are all these things like posts in the ground and, you know, between you and the goal?

[00:38:41] Well, these are beliefs because we don’t move without belief. We don’t get out of bed without some belief. We don’t start our journey intellectually at least, without belief. But the deep unspoken yearning has nothing to do with belief.

[00:39:01] The sense that there has got to be more to life than this, that isn’t necessarily belief. But then we go looking for beliefs to make sense of what we can’t put into words. And so there’s us and there’s some beliefs, and we tie ourselves to beliefs. So this person is holding three ropes and as you can see, tied to this big belief, tied to this little belief that’s a bit closer and tied to this belief that’s a bit further off. And you can see this rope that runs along the floor. It’s got a couple of loops in it and there’s a bit of slack, whereas the rope that’s close to the closest belief is quite tight. And this big belief here is obviously a lot stronger than this little belief down here and is more dominant in that person’s field of awareness.

[00:39:54] So not all beliefs are equal. Some are stronger, some are more loosely tethered, some are more tightly tethered. But you get the idea. Now, why do we do it? Why do we pick up these beliefs? Well, because they’re closer than us to our goal. So we believe that by tying ourselves to them and pulling ourselves along, we will get to where we want to get.

[00:40:20] But here’s the thing. When we start to gather beliefs, then we also start to put on different hats.

[00:40:29] And so this person’s. One of their beliefs means that they’re now carrying that hat, which looks like a wizard’s hat.

[00:40:39] And another belief is giving them this kind of Indiana Jones hat. The explorer. I am an explorer, or I’m a. I’m a wizard or a warlock or a mage or a Santa, because we can believe in that as well, up to a point. Or I’m a rock climber. Because not all beliefs have to be spiritually orientated. Everything we believe about ourselves, about life, gives us another identity. And, you know, look in your wardrobe.

[00:41:10] Not all your clothes are the same kind of outfit. So we quite often literally have different identities depending on am I the smart power dresser today or am I the, you know, beach bum baggies, chilled out flip flop guy today? You know, different roles and identities. But what I’m showing us is that there’s a connection between the beliefs that we choose and tie ourselves to and the identities that that then gives us.

[00:41:41] Oh, one more. So, you know, the academic hat, the.

[00:41:45] What’s it called? The smorgasbord or the mortis board. I don’t know, I can’t remember this name for that anyway, the one that you wear once throw in the air and then have to give it back and lose your deposit because you scuffed it. But yeah, the academic hat. So you might be. I’m a PhD student, I’m a master student, I’m a doctor. There’s all kinds of I ams that we pick up.

[00:42:09] And some of them, the belief crept in.

[00:42:13] But there was always a belief, like if I, if I go to this university and I study this course, then I will become something I’m not, and then I’ll be able to call myself something new that I wasn’t before. Okay, so we get the idea that we’re trying to get somewhere, and on the way we find beliefs. Now how they come along is another topic altogether. But as we tie ourselves to different beliefs, we can pull on those things and use them for support.

[00:42:42] But what happens when we get to here? We’re further along in our journey and look, one of the beliefs has snapped.

[00:42:49] It must have got. It was behind them and it got too tight. And we can see it here that this belief has snapped.

[00:42:56] But this belief, this really big one that they were using to pull themselves forwards is now pulling them backwards. It’s holding them back. They can’t actually go any further because that big belief that they adopted is now behind them.

[00:43:13] But they’re attached to it.

[00:43:15] And that one that they formed an attachment to down here, they’ve still not reached the end of that belief. They’re still slack in the rope.

[00:43:24] So they’re still attached to it, but it’s not holding them back necessarily. But they are attached to it. I mean, look, the picture is a metaphor, but hopefully you’re getting the meaning and the message that some beliefs seem like we need them to. To get so far, but then as we progress and grow, do they actually support us, or are they now kind of are we at the end of that piece of rope and they’re resisting? They’re offering up resistance?

[00:43:56] You know, it’s worth contemplating.

[00:43:59] But even here. Oh, look, there’s still identities, but the orders change. So now the hard hat is a more prescient one for where this person’s at. Oh, I’m still the adventurer, the Indiana Jones hat, and, yep, still the academic. But they’ve let go of one of their beliefs because one of their beliefs has snapped. So they’re no longer wearing one of the other hats. They’ve let go of it, but they’re still carrying that weight of all of those identities that go with the beliefs.

[00:44:32] Okay, you know where we’re going with this.

[00:44:35] So how do you get to the actual goal?

[00:44:40] Well, this person doesn’t have anything that they’re attached to. They’re not attached to a belief about themselves or about their journey. And therefore they’re able to reach the conclusion of their journey to get, you know, what the original question was.

[00:44:59] Can we, you know, is it possible to do massive amounts of spiritual growth in one lifetime? Yes, but this person has done it because they’ve let go of the tethers of belief, and therefore they’re not burdened by the identities, the hats that they were putting on. And now they’re floating up to actually embrace that which they wanted, which is love God, the source of all that is. Good, simple.

[00:45:31] Now, maybe this person started off with beliefs as well, but that’s where they’ve got to.

[00:45:37] Okay, that’s where we start.

[00:45:41] And then beliefs get presented.

[00:45:43] So I hope that that kind of made sense. The only way I could think to explain it was to kind of draw it out a little bit.

[00:45:54] And, you know, these pictures will be available.

[00:45:58] So let’s just do a quick recap of what. What we’ve kind of just covered in that little montage of line drawings. So some beliefs are closer to the truth and can help us pull ourselves spiritually forwards. You know, that’s. That’s valid.

[00:46:17] That’s. That’s a good thing.

[00:46:20] There’s many things I believed in the past that helped me get to a point that was closer to the truth.

[00:46:28] But some beliefs are a distraction and hold us back or pull us in the wrong direction.

[00:46:34] Okay?

[00:46:35] Same for everyone.

[00:46:38] It is our attachment to the beliefs that has the pull.

[00:46:42] The belief holding us back isn’t the belief. It’s the fact that we’ve tied a rope around it and we’re holding onto that rope.

[00:46:50] Oh, and one of my cameras is just.

[00:46:52] Okay, well, we’ll just, we’ll just accept that that camera has just died.

[00:46:57] We will limp on without that camera. You don’t need to see me.

[00:47:01] I like it when these little things happen because it reminds us all that this is a live show.

[00:47:06] Okay? We fabricate identities based on our beliefs. Now, I’m sure that’s something that we all understood, but, you know, the beautiful thing about saying it out loud is now we can understand it better.

[00:47:23] It’s like it’s not an unconscious knowing. It’s a thing that we can actually relate to. So we fabricate identities based on our beliefs.

[00:47:36] And the next one is identities weigh us down, as all identities are a self imposed limit. Okay, so just have a think about that for a moment.

[00:47:48] All identities are a self imposed limit.

[00:47:56] I am. This means I am not that.

[00:48:00] You know, a good example, I was chatting to someone about this just the other day about how. And I’ve mentioned it in the live show as well. I used to be a vegan.

[00:48:12] And that’s an identity and is a massive self imposed limit. It limits literally what you can eat, but it also limits you in other ways. And that limit ekes out onto other people. Now, I’m not saying that it’s right or wrong.

[00:48:29] I made my choice based on beliefs, but also based on more than beliefs. You know, one of the joys of being spiritual is you can have experience based knowing as opposed to just believing.

[00:48:44] But when I.

[00:48:46] When that knowing extended into new knowing that revealed new information to me, then I was able to challenge my own beliefs. And I said, I am no longer vegan, vegetarian, and that’s less limited.

[00:49:01] So. But it’s still a limit.

[00:49:05] So ironically, someone in the chat has said, excellent visuals, Mark. Very, very helpful.

[00:49:12] Which is ironic because the camera’s gone dead, But I’m glad that you could see the screen and that’s what really actually matters. In fact, not having me on the screen is less of a distraction, which is good.

[00:49:25] So identities weigh us down as all identities are self imposed limits. Rem, we fabricate our identities based on our beliefs. We chose our beliefs. So we have to therefore recognize that our identities are self imposed limits.

[00:49:39] All identities can lead to ego, doesn’t mean they do. But every single identity, even being a spiritual person, so you know, I say, I’m a teacher, I am a writer, I am a podcaster. These are all identities.

[00:49:59] Any identity, even if the goal of that identity is good, any identity can lead to ego. It doesn’t mean they do lead to ego, but we have to be wise and aware to that fact.

[00:50:12] So there is no such thing as an identity that if you embrace it, is safe, that you can be complacent about.

[00:50:22] All identity can lead to ego. The identity comes first, then the ego arises.

[00:50:28] Identity is always an illusion, a story you tell yourself.

[00:50:35] I mean, just chew that one over.

[00:50:38] Identity is always an illusion, a story you tell yourself, you know, because what happens when you change identity? Are you any less real?

[00:50:51] So what’s changed? It’s the story you’re telling yourself. And therefore that will have a knock on effect on how you act, how you dress, all these other things and what you believe, what you choose to believe next.

[00:51:03] So it’s all storytelling to self. Okay, Your higher self is not the illusion. So identity is always an illusion. Your higher self is not the illusion, it’s what’s real.

[00:51:15] It doesn’t buy into any of the identities that you faust upon yourself.

[00:51:21] The strength of a belief is our desire for it to be true.

[00:51:29] So your personal beliefs, their strength in your life is actually driven by how much do you want them to be true, and also how much identity have you or have we created based on it being true? So you believe something, you want it to be true, and you create an identity.

[00:51:49] And if you invest in that identity, the strength of the belief gets stronger. Because that identity, who you think you are, who you tell yourself you are, the story you’re telling yourself about yourself is underpinned by that belief. So if the belief isn’t strong or the belief was weak and easily challenged, then your identity would be weak and easily changed. So you need the belief to be strong, so you strengthen it.

[00:52:15] So the strength of a belief is our desire for it to be true and how much identity we have heaped upon it.

[00:52:24] The higher self never encourages belief. Never have any of us ever been guided to have a Belief, it favors congruency of thought.

[00:52:34] Now, quite early on in this, I said, you know that deep yearning, that’s your higher self trying to wake you up.

[00:52:47] That knowing without words, knowing beyond words, that there’s got to be something more special, something you know from the heart.

[00:52:54] That’s the truth. The beliefs are all the stories and explanations that we’re adopting, but they’re not. They’re the illusion. The truth is in here.

[00:53:08] Okay, so that’s why the. The guy in the picture who actually embraced God, you know, in other words, attained what they were seeking. And doesn’t mean it was a fake. Complete. Doesn’t mean it was the end of their journey. It was just that they were now free of the burden of identities and belief.

[00:53:27] Who they are was still who they are, but it was much more congruency of thought.

[00:53:34] Their thinking was aligned with their nature. Their nature was spiritual.

[00:53:38] So now, no amount of belief makes us more spiritual.

[00:53:44] No amount of belief makes us more spiritual.

[00:53:49] I mean, again, the irony is you can choose to believe that or not.

[00:53:55] I’m not asking anyone to believe a single word I say. In fact, I’ve said it so many times. But I would be delighted if you just stopped believing and actually found out through your own experiences. That’s the higher order way of being. So no amount of belief makes us more spiritual.

[00:54:13] And humility really is the key.

[00:54:17] Okay, if we. Let me just see if I can jump back or jump forwards to.

[00:54:25] Yeah, one of these pictures. So this guy’s, you know, or girl is tethered. There’s a bit of slack in the belief in front of them. They’ve snapped one of the tethers. They’ve managed to break free from one of the beliefs that they had, but they’re still being held back by a big belief.

[00:54:45] How does humility fit into this humility?

[00:54:48] So they’re clinging tight to their beliefs. Why? Because the beliefs support the identities.

[00:54:57] Humility is a bit like having the spiritual courage to be spiritually naked, to be vulnerable, to be honest with yourself, to know that God knows you despite all the stories, despite everything you’re convincing yourself of. Humility is the courage to go, show me who I really am.

[00:55:22] You know, to accept the guidance which isn’t guiding you to any beliefs. The guidance is trying to actually guide you to the truth.

[00:55:28] And so humility allows us to recognize truth because a lot of people can’t recognize truth. They will fight it, resist it, push back against it. Because why?

[00:55:43] Why?

[00:55:46] Let me show you. Because the truth would challenge their identities. The truth would try and knock one of the hats off their head or remove one of the ropes from their hand. And they’re tight, they’re holding on tight to those beliefs.

[00:56:01] So truth is a very, very scary proposition to someone whose identity is tethered to their beliefs. And their beliefs are something that they would hold very tightly to.

[00:56:16] And that’s why I said I respect you. Because if you’re here, you’re looking for the truth. And if you’re looking for the truth, then you’ve got the courage to let go, but also the humility to know that just like me, you don’t have all the answers. I don’t have all the answers.

[00:56:31] That’s why we need guidance. That’s why we need God.

[00:56:36] And so humility really is the key because metaphorically speaking, humility melts the ropes, fades the beliefs, undresses us of our identities and lays us bare to be guided and able to be guided because we’re receptive. So humility really is the key there.

[00:57:00] Without humility, we adorn ourselves with identities and we tether ourselves to our beliefs and we become a prisoner.

[00:57:08] So, so what do we do with all this information? There’s a list of all the things that we might be doing and I’ve actually extended the list. So on the left hand side we’ve got. And this is just from my own life. Okay. This is just stuff I’ve encountered directly or through the people that I help.

[00:57:27] Reiki, acupuncture, mindfulness, tarot crystals, orgone, tantra, shamanic work, scrying, mediumship, possession, Tai chi, qigong, spirit guides, yoga, lsd, dmt, IO aska, pyoti, medicines, Kundalini city powers, angel, angel, Reiki or angel healing. Religion, paganism, Buddhism, magic spelled many different ways, including voodoo, vodon medicine, men, that kind of stuff. Astrology, Wiccans, witches, warlocks, druidism, astral projection, remote viewing, visualizations, meditations, lower meditation and higher meditation, chanting, sound baths, mantras.

[00:58:08] Add that hypnosis, nlp, rebirthing, akashic records, sungazing, bathing, moon worship, nature Gaia worship, telepathy, psychometry rituals, vision boards, spells, enchantments, etc. Occult symbology, manifesting, Law of Attraction, Abraham, the Secret.

[00:58:27] Give me an hour and I could double that list. And I’m sure you’ve experienced things that you know that aren’t on that list. What are we supposed to do with all this information?

[00:58:39] Well, most of these things, as I said, aren’t really that spiritual, but they are belief driven, they’re of the mind Most of them.

[00:58:50] And they certainly have effects. And some of those effects certainly may, on the surface, appear very, very good. And also, I’m not going to diminish anything, if any of these things, because, look, I did what I. 25 of them. If any of these things helped you move in the right direction towards God, then they did their job. The question really is, do they still serve that positive purpose? Or have they become an identity that actually might be holding us back?

[00:59:23] Okay, so I’m talking from experience.

[00:59:27] I’m not trying to knock anyone who does any of these things. I’ve done most of the them myself.

[00:59:33] But I’ve been on this journey and I’m just trying to share what can we do with this information? So this brings us on to the idea of a belief detox.

[00:59:46] So step one, total honesty.

[00:59:50] And this is a process, and I’m not saying it’s definitive. Feel free to adapt it. Feel free to make it your own.

[00:59:57] Take bits out, put bits in.

[00:59:59] But just let’s start here.

[01:00:02] So step one, total honesty number one, what do I believe?

[01:00:10] Define it. Actually write down your belief.

[01:00:14] Now, look, we’re going to have lots of beliefs, so focus on the biggest belief.

[01:00:19] What do I believe? And obviously we’re talking spiritually here. Okay, step two, how attached am I to this belief? And the kind of thing to consider is, am I willing to die for it?

[01:00:33] Step three, have I made it part of my identity?

[01:00:38] So has the belief now become something that I adorn myself with?

[01:00:44] You know, and for example, am I using labels congruent with that belief to define myself to others? That kind of thing?

[01:00:52] What am I really worshiping? That’s a really fascinating question. For example, when I was into crystals, in fact, I’ll do an example. So we’ll hold back on the examples, but ask yourself, with this belief, what am I really worshiping?

[01:01:10] And with this belief, what is the authority here?

[01:01:15] Okay, so that’s more obvious for some of the things in that list. So if we quickly go back to that list. So, for example, shamanic work, if you’ve got a shaman who’s guiding you, are they the authority?

[01:01:30] If it’s religion, is it the priest? Is it yoga, Is it the teacher? Or is it whoever created the yoga, what’s the authority?

[01:01:40] But identify it. So what is the authority here? So step one, total honesty, just with yourself is about you actually defining the belief and understanding the depth of it and understanding the power it has over you. So what are you worshiping through that belief? And what is the authority? Where does the authority sit with that belief.

[01:02:04] Okay, because then you know where you are with the belief.

[01:02:09] Step two is neutral detachment.

[01:02:13] Okay? So the belief can still be there, but it’s going to become neutral and kind of take a step back.

[01:02:19] So why do I believe this?

[01:02:22] I will do an example.

[01:02:25] What assumptions have I made to allow this belief in my life? Because I have accepted those assumptions, whether I realize it or not.

[01:02:33] What limits are implied by this belief?

[01:02:37] I am limited.

[01:02:39] So in other words, I have limited myself by the implied limits of this belief. What do I actually know from direct personal experience?

[01:02:51] That’s an important one.

[01:02:53] So the belief may have led to behaviors and actions and practices that you then had experiences of.

[01:02:59] The experiences are more important. What do you actually know from the experience?

[01:03:04] But that doesn’t necessarily mean that it validates a belief, just that you’ve had experiences. Okay, and then does it bring me closer to God?

[01:03:18] Part three. Embracing congruency. Remember, your higher self doesn’t guide you ever towards belief. What it favors is congruency of thought. So embrace incongruency.

[01:03:31] Affirm what your actual goal is, whatever it was that motivated you to pick up that belief in the first place. I want to be more spiritual. I want to find out what the truth is.

[01:03:43] What is your actual goal?

[01:03:46] Is it to become a Reiki master, or was that a stepping stone to your goal?

[01:03:53] What is the shortest and simplest path to your goal?

[01:04:01] Take personal responsibility. Forgive yourself, and let go.

[01:04:05] Let go of the belief, let go of the identity. Let go and let God.

[01:04:12] That’s the saying, by the way. Let go and let God.

[01:04:15] Okay, but let me do an example. So that’s a Screenshot from a YouTube video from.

[01:04:23] It’s got a red line on it. Let’s try that again.

[01:04:26] Let’s go back, right? That’s a Screenshot from a YouTube video I did years and years ago.

[01:04:33] And I’m teaching. In this video, I’m doing a tutorial on how to do crystal meditation. So, as I said, I’ve done a lot of this stuff, but I’ve also taught a lot of it.

[01:04:42] Now, let’s run through step one, two, and three very quickly.

[01:04:49] This is me being honest.

[01:04:52] So what do I believe? I believe at that time, I believe that crystals had power and could help us to become more spiritual.

[01:05:04] So how attached am I to this belief? Am I willing to die for it?

[01:05:08] I wouldn’t say I was willing to die for it, but when I remember when someone challenged it and they said, no, I don’t believe in using crystals, I think that it’s wrong to take them out the ground. I think nature intended them to stay in the ground. So were kind of acknowledging crystals had energy, but they said it was wrong to take them out of their natural environment and use them.

[01:05:28] And I kind of. We had a healthy debate. They had their opinion, I had mine. So I was willing to stand my ground when it came to crystals, and I was. And here’s the important thing. I was willing to spend my money. I probably spent about a thousand pounds in that period of time on crystals.

[01:05:46] L grade quartz crystal ball, long clear crystal points, quartz again, and a whole load of other stuff. So I was definitely willing to put my money where my mouth was and to have interesting conversations where I would stand my ground. So when it comes to where. How attached I was, I was quite attached. You know, I was financially involved and I even made a.

[01:06:12] Actually made a couple of YouTube videos about using crystals. So I was willing to put myself out there publicly as someone who was promoting crystals.

[01:06:22] Had I made it part of my identity?

[01:06:26] A little bit, but not much. So there were crystals in my home, but I wasn’t one of. I’ve seen, and I know people who are much more wedded to crystals, but I. But it was part of my spiritual toolkit of teaching at the time.

[01:06:42] So from that perspective, yes, I could acknowledge that it was part of my identity, but it wasn’t a dominant part.

[01:06:49] What am I really worshiping? I’d never thought about it.

[01:06:52] I’d never thought about it, but I was devoting time, and devoting time is a form of worship. So I guess answering the question retrospectively, and this is why, you know, I said, I wish I’d known. I wish I’d known this years ago, because I could have literally just worked through this process with crystals and gone, oh, hang on a sec. Never even thought about, what am I worshipping?

[01:07:14] So what would I have been worshipping? I would have been worshiping earth, energy, Geometry, vibration.

[01:07:22] Okay, what’s the authority here?

[01:07:25] Again, a very good question. It was kind of the people that were my teachers at the time who were encouraging crystal stuff. And then there was a couple who run one of the main crystal shops in town where I lived, who were also known to me as meditators. And so I trusted them. And so you could say, well, they were partly the authority. But I’ll tell you what, wasn’t the authority. God wasn’t in any of this.

[01:07:52] But it’s really fascinating actually now doing this exercise because I hadn’t really prepared, thought about it. So, yeah, I’m realizing that my authority had been given to others and that I was worshiping something crystally.

[01:08:08] So neutral detachment. Okay, why do I believe this? So remember, this is me doing it retrospectively. I. I’ve moved on from crystals. But at the time, why do I believe it? Because my main teacher would talk about crystals.

[01:08:22] Some of the people that I really trusted had crystals and they did some exercises with me where they put crystals around my body and I was able to notice the flow of energy and stuff. And so I believed more through experience.

[01:08:38] And then what assumptions have I made to allow this belief? So I assume that crystals are good. I assumed that crystals could help a person. I had ideas about them unblocking energy and helping us to focus.

[01:08:55] That’s my two main things that I wanted to get from crystals and also interest.

[01:09:03] But yeah, the, the assumptions were that they were good, that they could help people. What limits are implied by this belief? So that people would need help from an external agency that is non sentient.

[01:09:24] So that if I’m saying that crystals could help people, then the limit, the implied limit would be that humans are deficient and they need some kind of external thing, or that they, their vibration is at the level of crystals is, I guess, another one trying to be. I’m trying to place myself in that person that I was at that time when I was doing a lot of crystal work.

[01:09:51] I’m trying to be honest about what he was thinking. And obviously I’m. I’m in a different place now. So what I’m saying now is, is imagine it was 12, 14 years ago. Okay. But yeah, I can see that. What was implied was there’s a suggestion that humans and crystals are similar vibration and that humans are deficient and need external help.

[01:10:14] So what did I actually know from direct personal experience that when a person placed quartz crystals around me and pointed them in various directions, I could feel the flow of energy.

[01:10:24] Flow of some energy. I don’t know what that energy was, if I’m being honest.

[01:10:28] And that with my eyes closed, I could tell when crystals were brought near to me. And therefore what did I actually know that they interacted with me in some way.

[01:10:40] Did it bring me closer to God? No.

[01:10:43] Does it bring me close to God? No.

[01:10:45] Part 3 Embracing congruency so affirm what my actual goal was. My actual goal is, and was at the time was much more phrased in the way of. To attain enlightenment because I was on a meditative spiritual journey and to get as far as I could, whatever that meant.

[01:11:05] That was My actual goal, what is the shortest and simplest path? Shortest and simplest path, that meditative journey would be to just get on with it, meditate, be relaxed and still and meditate, take personal responsibility, forgive yourself and let go. And I’m going to do it now because I didn’t have this exercise back then. So, yeah, I accepted what people around me were telling me was true about crystals. I accepted that belief as truth.

[01:11:35] And I accepted the information I was given by people around me, crystal shop owners and teachers, and that I then pass that information on to others as a teacher.

[01:11:49] And I forgive myself because I did not know any better. There was an innocence to it.

[01:11:56] When I found out more about crystals, then I let go. So it says, and let go. But I’m kind of saying I did. So what happened was I. When I made some big realizations from experience on the inside, so a much higher order than belief about crystals. I literally got every crystal in the house, put them in a box, walked down the street, knocked on someone’s door who I knew was into crystals.

[01:12:24] First I cleansed them, because that was part of the thing was I realized how much crystals are used by external forces.

[01:12:32] So crystals in our homes can be programmed by others.

[01:12:36] Cleansed them, deprogrammed them, gave them to this person who I know was very much into crystals, and that’s where they were at, and said, I no longer need these. Do you want them? And they looked in a box, were quite shocked at what I was handing over because some of the crystals were worth 200, 300 pounds each.

[01:12:52] And that said very gladly, thank you.

[01:12:58] And for me, that was me letting go.

[01:13:01] And then I took down all the videos that I’d done about crystals and I removed crystals from my work, going forwards so very quickly with knowledge and awareness, I changed my attitude and let go of those beliefs.

[01:13:23] So that’s an example of belief detox, and I’ve lived through it. And if you go back to, well, let’s have a look. So these are all the different things, and the ones in dark green are the ones that I’ve done or do.

[01:13:38] And the, by the way, Reiki is slightly different from the others.

[01:13:43] I’ve made it stand out a little bit to explain that I was never a Reiki master.

[01:13:50] When I started teaching meditation, I was already advanced meditation teacher and Reiki 1, Reiki 2, and Reiki Masters were amongst my students.

[01:13:59] And I looked into Reiki and I saw the symbols and stuff like this, and then did some work with a few of them where they realized what this guy’s doing is on another level.

[01:14:18] And the Reiki masters, and I know some of them will be watching this show or will watch it again or listen to the thing. The Reiki masters soon after stop being Reiki masters because they realize that there’s much more congruently divine stuff. And they also started kind of did this detox process of recognizing implied limits and stuff like that. So I’ve had a lot of Reiki contact.

[01:14:44] I’ve also been a recipient of Reiki and one time it wasn’t asked for. A guy walked up behind me and decided to give me Reiki and I didn’t know what they were doing, I didn’t know that they were there. But I felt such a shock to my system that instinctively I nearly turned around and punched them. And I literally. What are you doing?

[01:15:03] It energetically felt like someone was vomiting down my back energetically.

[01:15:10] It was a very horrible experience.

[01:15:13] And that person didn’t understand energy in the way that I did. But also that person hadn’t done at that time thousands of hours of meditation that I had. And so their energy was in a different place and they were operating out of kindness.

[01:15:30] I forgave them. The moment passed and I explained to them, please never give me Reiki without asking my permission. And the answer’s no.

[01:15:40] But they were well intentioned and they were operating from their beliefs that Reiki is always good and that Reiki. But their vibration was much lower. And what happens is if a person with lower vibration tries to give Reiki to someone who’s at a higher vibration actually is harmful to the higher vibration person because what happens is all the lower vibrational stuff pours into them and the higher vibration person ends up healing the lower vibration person. It’s complete opposite of what the Reiki person thinks was happening.

[01:16:09] And so, you know, I’ve had various experiences of Reiki and I used to, you know, friends and family were Reiki masters and stuff. And so years before that I would receive Reiki gladly believing that it was good.

[01:16:25] And so, yeah, it’s Reiki stands out a bit different from the others in that I’m not a Reiki practitioner, but I have been a recipient and done a lot of work with Reiki people. Anyway, so let’s have a look at this.

[01:16:42] What I’m going to do is I’m going to cross out all the things. So we talked about crystals and I don’t do crystals anymore. Born of experience. Okay. But these are, these are all things that I had a strong belief and identity in. To some extent. Okay, so let’s see what’s left. So crystals have gone, Reiki’s gone. Obviously mediumship has gone.

[01:17:06] So I have contacted people who have passed over many, many times and I used to do it in a mediumship way.

[01:17:14] I don’t disturb them anymore because I’ve understood and learned and had a lot of experiences doing it. And you know, the identity is not worth it.

[01:17:25] Wiccan. So I’ve never really been involved in that. So cross that one out the list. And remote viewing. Used to do quite a bit of remote viewing and drawing out stuff and doing stuff in terms of remote viewing in time as well. I don’t do it anymore. Once I understood the mechanisms and what’s going on.

[01:17:45] Hypnosis and nlp, I’ve crossed out rebirthing, meaning the kind of regression work and past life work.

[01:17:52] Hypnosis I don’t do and NLP I don’t do.

[01:17:57] But there are situations more to do with, like if someone’s suffered trauma where if done very, very carefully and sympathetically in full respect for free will and those, those things, then it could be a useful tool in a very carefully control, like managed way. But it’s not something that I would normally do. But I wouldn’t write them off. There is some good in them, but they’re not spiritual.

[01:18:29] Astral projection? Absolutely not. And I used to do quite a lot of work there. Used to project all the time, sometimes involuntarily a lot as a kid.

[01:18:42] Buddhism?

[01:18:44] No, had a lot of done so quite a few Buddhists would come to my classes and I’ve done a lot of teaching where I’ve met with Buddhists and found that there’s limits for them, their limits in terms of how still they can get and things like that. And so I kind of noticed that they, they would struggle when it was outside of the. The bounds of what they’re used to, to get any stiller.

[01:19:16] Scrying. So if you don’t know what scrying is, it’s either looking into a crystal ball or it would be getting a, like a flat bowl and, and water in the bowl. And sometimes people put black ink in to make it more like a mirror. And then trying to see either a bit like remote viewing, trying to see other places or to see events in the past or the future.

[01:19:39] So don’t do that anymore. Mindfulness? Absolutely not. Used to teach it, but absolutely not again. Because what’s the goal? The goal is to be spiritual.

[01:19:51] And being mindful may have therapeutic benefits and it may Help people with certain anxieties and things like this. But it isn’t spiritual simply, you know. And it can actually.

[01:20:06] I did a short video about this and I did a couple of episodes I believe as well it can actually become a trap that people get stuck in.

[01:20:15] So City Powers was curious, did a bit of work. Not interested anymore. I’m really not interested in. It’s low level stuff but a lot of people, it’s what they try and attain.

[01:20:27] Spirit guides again did a lot of work, wrote books.

[01:20:31] Don’t have anything to do with it now because I’ve realized bigger truth and it’s not dismissing people that do. But there’s limits.

[01:20:41] Angel healing Never really got involved in that again.

[01:20:49] How can I put this?

[01:20:52] The thousands and thousands of hours of meditation that I’ve done and the access that I have means that wherever the angels might be, there can I also be. And I’m not unique in this.

[01:21:05] And I remember initiating one guy into light and sound and energy and one of the first things he witnessed was angels genuinely, you know, not just imagination.

[01:21:17] So there is something to it. But again it’s one the more you understand, the more you know, you realize there’s natural order to things.

[01:21:25] Some things aren’t necessarily what we understand them to be. And that’s something I don’t really go near, touch or have anything to do with these days.

[01:21:35] Chanting and sound bath. So I used to do, run classes, teach classes. I had videos where I was doing stuff like this don’t do it anymore. And the same with rituals and spells, telepathy and psychometry manifesting in the secret. I’ve talked a lot about having been involved in that and then backing away from it.

[01:21:59] Religion was brought up religious, served on the altar. Thought about becoming a man of the cloth. But it’s not something that is the shortest, quickest path to my goal. In fact it’s not a path to that goal of to truly be spiritual and to know the truth, God, shamanic stuff. Done quite a bit on various workshops and again learnt moved on sun, moon, nature, Gaia. So I still enjoy going barefoot and I enjoy being out at night and being out in the day. But I and I used to do sungazing when I lived in Yorkshire.

[01:22:39] But my understanding has massively changed spiritually.

[01:22:46] I’ve done a lot of work to do with the sun and the moon and brought down a lot of kind of knowledge and I’ve shared it with some people and that stuff I talk about a lot in the books I’m writing actually not A lot, but it does feature in there.

[01:23:01] And what I’ve learned is that it’s not the highest path. So again, I think it can really help people because it gives them a focus to become more neutral, more present by having an external focus, just the same as a candle really would. But in terms of the energies of the sun and the moon, a bit like Reiki, they can help people up to a certain level, but beyond that they can actually hinder people. So it’s really a question of is that rope in front of you pulling you forwards, or is that rope actually now behind you, holding you back?

[01:23:36] Lsd, dmt, medicine. Never been drawn to it, but I’ve produced an article where I did a lot of spiritual work looking into it, and I absolutely would not encourage it or do anything to do with it. Kundalini spent months and months doing Kundalini mantra work and teaching Kundalini as well. And there’s some funny stories to tell another day, but I would not recommend it. And it’s not spiritual. And one of the first videos I ever did was talking about whether or not Kundalini was spiritual magic. However you spell it, whether you think it’s light or dark or good or bad, there is no such thing as good magic.

[01:24:15] All of it is based on illusion, a higher order or a lower order.

[01:24:20] Astrology, Again, people used to come to me, I used to do their charts, used to spend hours explaining stuff.

[01:24:26] Had a chat with someone a few weeks back and we talked. Astrology came up and I was able to engage with them about it. But it’s not something I promote as spiritual, it’s not something I’m interested in.

[01:24:36] And also, the label that we give ourselves in terms of our astrological sign is actually a massive identity, an illusion that we accept and therefore collude in because it compels, it does not impel. We have free will. We can be outside of the bounds of what our astrological predeterminations are. So it is actually kind of a trap.

[01:25:04] Tai Chi, Qigong used to do a lot of Tai Chi and in the interest of time, we’ll just move on, don’t do it anymore. And I think Nick mentioned qigong and he came to the same conclusion. Spiritually, Tantra used to do it. Less said, move on.

[01:25:23] Lower meditation. So I’ve crossed out the word lower.

[01:25:28] There are higher forms of meditation, but overall I don’t promote or recommend pretty much any kind of meditation except for very basic breathing now. And that’s quite astounding when you consider how Many types of meditation I used to teach and then yoga. I’ve got a question mark over yoga. Done a lot of yoga in my life, benefited massively from it. Some new information came up literally about three days ago, someone sent me a video and I’m in the process of looking into it. And so my beliefs may be challenged, being very honest here because I do see a lot of benefits from yoga, but I am going to look into it. And so I’ll put a question mark there because I don’t know the outcome yet. I’m neutral.

[01:26:14] So you notice that some of the things still there. Visualization can be a powerful tool, but not when it’s done as kind of ritualistic spells or manifesting. But for self growth it can help seeing yourself overcome a problem. For example, and tarot, I don’t really promote it, but tarot can be a way of using something external to drop into state so that you can become more receptive to your higher self. But there needs to be a lot of maturity and wisdom and certainly a lot of the kind of.

[01:26:53] There’s a lot of tarot people that are steeped in identity and they’re really attached to it and, and it’s not helping them to be more spiritual.

[01:27:03] It’s a useful tool, but it’s just a tool.

[01:27:07] Okay, so that’s me being honest about where I’m at and the journey I’ve been on.

[01:27:13] And I wish I’d not understood or had that three step thing back in the day, but I didn’t. You know, I’m.

[01:27:22] I’m making it about me so that it’s easier for you, so that it’s not.

[01:27:27] You’re on the spot.

[01:27:29] If you see how much I’ve been involved in and had to learn about and overcome and realize the limits of and moved on, then hopefully it just inspires that A, you can and B, that clearly the identities are not as important as the goal. Okay.

[01:27:47] And this is just a kind of by way of a bit of proof. I’m sorry it’s really small, but I’m just going to read out some of these titles. These are all you can see at the top here. It says title contains meditation tutorial and visibility is private. This is the back end of my YouTube channel, which I don’t really use YouTube anymore. But these videos are sitting there and we’ve got meditation tutorial 26 other other chakras 25 throat chakra healing 23 solar plexus chakra 21 counting breath overcoming struggle 20, pardon me, 19 is Kundalinian energy. 18 is mantra meditation. 17 is sound vibrations.

[01:28:26] These are just ones. In this screenshot, there’s literally about 30 of them that I’ve. I’ve removed them from public so no one can see them. They’re private.

[01:28:35] I’ve parked them. I mean, 2018 is when these were uploaded, because as I’ve learned, I’ve. I’ve removed books and content that doesn’t represent the shortest, quickest path to spirituality for people. In other words, it’s congruency. As I’ve learned, I’ve let go.

[01:29:00] And. And it’s quite painful because it really damaged my channel when I knocked out my. At the time, I only had about 50 videos, and I knocked out 30 of them, and I lost a lot of subscribers. And, you know, and. But the goal was never to have lots of subscribers. The goal was never. Success is never.

[01:29:18] For me, the number of people. It’s the.

[01:29:22] Like, I’m talking to you right now. Is this helping you? If it’s helping you, that’s all I could hope for.

[01:29:30] If it helps five people, great. If it helps 500 people, great. It’s the same.

[01:29:34] The people who are ready are guided.

[01:29:37] You’re ready. You’re being guided to the this.

[01:29:41] Now the question is, are you clinging to the ropes in your hand, or are you ready to let go so that you can actually move on to the real goal, which is spirituality? And obviously, you’ve already moved on a lot in your life, and I salute that and celebrate that, and I’m grateful for you giving me your time. And if this was a takeaway conversation, then we’d be learning from each other, but hopefully there’s at least some kind of positive exchange, and that’s, again, one of the things that we could hope for.

[01:30:11] So we’re almost at the end.

[01:30:15] So what can we do? Let’s always end on a positive. What can we do?

[01:30:20] So we got this figure.

[01:30:22] 7 months, 3 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes, and 36 seconds. Although we can probably say now it’s 8 hours and.

[01:30:30] Sorry, 19 hours and. And no minutes. You know, times past.

[01:30:37] This is the time that we’re awake.

[01:30:40] This is basically how much time are we awake and focused on spirituality in our entire lives? Okay. On average. I know, guys, you know, you will probably be more. But still, it’s quite a shocking number.

[01:30:55] So understanding that, then that’s the awake time, spiritually awake time, then growth is the number of right choices that we make divided by the number of wrong choices times the amount of awake time. So if we can make, say, say we make on average five choices an hour. If we only have one hour, then we only make five choices.

[01:31:17] So there’s only five chances of growth.

[01:31:20] But if we’re awake for 100 hours, we can make 500 choices.

[01:31:25] And if we make 500 right choices, that’s 500 increments of growth.

[01:31:29] Now I’m deliberately saying right and wrong.

[01:31:32] Previous episode will explain that. Right moves you closer to God, wrong moves you away.

[01:31:38] If you keep. If you make a lot of wrong choices, then that gets divided and the right choices get diluted down. So you can imagine 10 at the top and 100 at the bottom means 1 10th, 1 10th the growth. So it’s not just making the right choices, it’s not making the wrong choices.

[01:31:55] But stop. I’m crossing all of that out.

[01:32:02] This is an example of getting it wrong.

[01:32:07] There’s nothing factually incorrect whatsoever with that formula. It is true.

[01:32:14] You could also write it out as right choices minus wrong choices. You know, the net balance.

[01:32:22] The point that I was trying to make is simply try and be awake more.

[01:32:28] It’s the awake time.

[01:32:30] Try and be awake more and try and make the right choices.

[01:32:34] We don’t need a formula.

[01:32:37] Growth equals humility plus the love of God and Jesus.

[01:32:44] The formula belongs to the head.

[01:32:50] And that’s part of the problem. That’s also where beliefs come in.

[01:32:55] And then we put a hat on that head, metaphorically and literally, and take on an identity.

[01:33:03] Growth comes from the heart. The heart already loves you.

[01:33:08] Your heart is your higher self in very simplistic terms.

[01:33:12] It doesn’t need you to be one thing or another thing or believe this or believe that. Just needs you to love.

[01:33:19] Growth is humility plus your love of God and Jesus. Humility lets you be guided, lets you let go of the ropes that you tie to your beliefs, lets you take off the hats that you’re wearing, dissolves more.

[01:33:36] So humility lets things happen. And the love of God and Jesus orientates you towards God and Jesus. That’s growth. That’s spiritual growth.

[01:33:45] Okay, but if you’re stuck now, we’ve got the three step detox and that, that’s the end of that.

[01:33:59] So it’s been a hopefully useful show and I apologize for the slight technical hiccups and. But that’s life. You know, it’s okay.

[01:34:11] Hopefully we, we’ve learned together.

[01:34:15] It’s been, I mean, I’ve learned just preparing for this show. You know, I started at about 6 this morning and there’s been a couple of dog walks in between and some of life’s chores. But I’ve been fascinated to see this unfold.

[01:34:29] I didn’t come into today knowing how this was going to play out. And so I’ve grown and learned from it as well. And if you’ve been watching, I’m grateful. Thank you for joining and yeah, the best we can do is to really just take what’s useful.

[01:34:49] You can handle the truth.

[01:34:51] That is the truth. You’re here, you’re here for a reason.

[01:34:56] So, yeah, we’ll just finish on the chat if anyone’s got any questions. It’s always nice we go to the chat and one of. We’ve already answered Panther 9’s question. What’s the difference between a sound bath and music and feedback? That people are getting something from the pictures? Hopefully you say you love the pictures. I’m hoping that that is because it helped with realizing something that’s useful.

[01:35:24] I think as well, it’s harder to show it in the, in a pictorial way. But the work I definitely recommend.

[01:35:35] I’m going to bring it up on the screen now.

[01:35:38] Bear with me because it means clicking a little bit, but there we go. I definitely recommend maybe printing that out, taking a screenshot or something and just working through it. Say, okay, look, what’s the biggest belief on my table right now that I’m aware of? What do I believe? Spiritually, it might be something negative. Sometimes we have beliefs that hold us back. That’d be one that’s back, you know, a belief that maybe has been a protective mechanism, like I’m not good enough or I’m.

[01:36:10] I can’t learn or I can’t change. Now these are, these are beliefs as well. People put on an identity there. But look, I believe, I believe that it’s 10:40 on a Thursday evening and it’s a good point to just wrap up here. So wherever you are, normally I say keep making the right choice or good choices. But what I’m actually going to say today is stop believing.

[01:36:43] Seek to know through experience.

[01:36:48] The truth is actually far more amazing, far more amazing than anything you could possibly believe. That’s why this saying exists. It was beyond my belief.

[01:37:01] On that note, God bless you, Lots of love.

[01:37:07] Thank you for being awesome and joining me for this episode. I’m truly grateful. As a spiritual person, I hope it’s inspiring to realize that you’re not alone and that more and more like minded people just like you are enjoying this live show. This means that you’re part of a growing and awakening community.

[01:37:26] And together we’re all finding the way back to God, going deeper than just ideas and beliefs to experience firsthand real spiritual awakening. This is a journey of the heart, not the head.

[01:37:42] So take this moment to just become a little bit stiller, more present, more neutral.

[01:37:52] Now notice what you notice when I ask you this question.

[01:37:58] What in this particular episode has been most useful?

[01:38:06] Now who in your life at this particular time would benefit the most from knowing this too? Maybe it’s one person, or maybe it’s more than one. But because sharing is caring, it’s really nice to know that you can actually share this show with them and therefore help them this show is completely free to enjoy and benefit from. Now, speaking of free stuff, if you’d like other useful, helpful spiritual resources, then head on over to thewaybackgroup.org there you’ll find all kinds of free resources, articles, eBooks, MP3s, guided meditations, and a whole load of other stuff that’s completely free and waiting for you to discover it. So that’s all for this episode, but your journey and my journey continues. And so I look forward to having you join me next week for more revelation and exploration into spiritual things. And together, let’s make more sense of life, not just for us, but for our loved ones so that we can help them too.

[01:39:11] So remember to subscribe and hit the notifications so that you don’t miss out.

[01:39:17] Who knows what we’ll be discussing next week, and the next question or topic might even be yours. Perhaps there’s a reason you’ve been guided to this show.

[01:39:26] So God bless you. And remember, real change starts when we put into practice what we’re learning so that we go from thinking and doing to finally being.

[01:39:44] So take what you’ve learned today and keep on being the best version of you.

[01:39:50] God bless you.

Episode notes & timings:

As ever the timings are for the actual video live show and you can transpose them for the audio podcast by taking about 3 min 30 seconds off the times shown below.

00:00:00 Introduction video
00:05:05 Spiritual Detox Show begins
00:08:25 Synopsis of the show
00:09:00 The Question about “Spiritual Growth”
00:11:35 What does Incarnation, Spiritual Growth, & Lifetime mean?
00:18:10 You can handle the TRUTH
00:20:55 Recap – what percentage of time is spiritually focused?
00:22:08 So how much time do we have for growth?
00:24:30 A game of SPIRITUAL BINGO
00:34:04 Why is spirituality so complicated?
00:38:18 The role of BELIEF on your spiritual journey? (drawings)
00:49:07 Summarising BELIEF on a spiritual journey
00:57:44 HUMILITY is the Key
01:00:40 So what do we do with this information?
01:03:10 The Spiritual Belief Detox Process
01:08:40 Example “Crystal Meditation”
01:18:00 Talking about Reiki healing
01:20:55 “Spiritual” things I have detoxed from
01:34:40 So what can we do?
01:39:30 To the chat

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