Ep.026 Can you Forgive and be spiritual? Smoking in Paris. Helping a loved one to learn life-lessons. Satanic Ritual at CERN. Hedonism & Universal Awareness: Live Show Discussing Spirituality with Mark Zaretti

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Ep.026 Can you Forgive and be spiritual? Smoking in Paris. Helping a loved one to learn life-lessons. Satanic Ritual at CERN. Hedonism & Universal Awareness: Live Show Discussing Spirituality with Mark Zaretti
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What does it mean to forgive? In this episode I’m going to draw upon realisations from higher states to explain what happens when you forgive. Breaking down the importance of it but also the misunderstandings.

Episode transcript:

Good evening, everyone, and we are live. It’s the Thursday, the 5 September 09:00
p.m. and thank you, everyone, for joining. Those of you who have said hello in the chat, it’s a
pleasure to have you here with me. And look, if you’re listening again after the event, either on
podcast or playing catch up on Rumble, thanks as well, because you’re still part of the show. So
I say every week there’s a lot to get through. We’ve only got an hour, and an hour isn’t that long.
So I think the best thing we can do is dive straight into the questions for this week. But I thought,
before I do that, let’s just mark the fact that this is the 26th episode in a row, which means it’s
now half a year since we started this, since I started this, and some of you have been with me
throughout the whole journey. So thank you. And if you’re new to the show as well, thank you.
There’s certainly more people subscribing than when we first started, so hopefully that is a
reflection that people are getting value from this. So where are we? It’s episode 26, it’s the 5
September, and every episode gets its own artwork. So what are we looking at here? We’re
looking at some guy blowing smoke rings, and we’ve got the CERN logo and what looks like
Shiva in two of the smoke rings. And that’s obviously a clue for what we’re going to be
discussing today. I don’t know if you guys know, but we’ve got a locals channel, I guess, and it’s
linked to the top, just underneath the video. You’ll see a link to the locals thing in the morning of
every Thursday when I’m doing the artwork, I actually do it live on there, and I discuss the
meaning behind these various pictures that I choose and the rationale thought for them. And I
also give a sneak preview to the questions. But if you didn’t see that, then I’m going to do the
questions now. Anyway, here’s the questions for this week. Let’s just jump into the right place.
There we go. So this is what we’ve got coming up today. First of all, why does forgiveness
matter, which was actually a carryover from last week?
Why is everyone smoking?
Not literally everyone, but it seems like in a certain place, at least, there are a lot of
people smoking. How do I help a loved one learn their lessons?
Now, who organized a satanic event at CERN?
Do as you like.
And then if we’ve got time at the end, I want to tell you about something to do with me
being in the hot seat. An upcoming interview potentially, which you might be able to get involved
with. So watch this space, listen to the end, and also just a quick latest news if there’s anything
more that we need to cover. But as ever, let’s dive straight in with the first question, which is so
on, forgiveness. Gary asks, how significant and important is forgiveness from a spiritual point of
view?
Off the bat, I’d say from whose perspective? The person who needs forgiving or the
person who has the opportunity to forgive?
Let’s deal with the latter, because I’m assuming that the question is probably framed
in a way that how is important? How important is it that I could forgive or we could forgive or you
could forgive? So if we take it from that stance, forgiveness from a spiritual point of view, well,
it’s obviously important because Jesus taught us about forgiveness, what he was alluding to.
And, you know, I can come at this from that side of things where I can come at this from my
understanding, from spiritual exploration on higher dimensions. So if we keep it really simple,
then forgiveness, first of all, means that you’ve done something wrong, and that means that
you’ve gone against your spiritual nature. So to have done something wrong means that you’ve
been guided by your spirit, but gone against it, keeping things really, really succinct. So on some
level, you knew it was wrong. Now, look, if someone does something and there’s no knowledge
that it’s wrong, even if it’s at a deeper level, they haven’t done wrong. They just haven’t done
right. You know, forgive them. They do not know what they do. But if someone ignores higher
guidance or ignores their own soul and spirit’s wisdom and does something that deep down that
is in their soul and spirit they know is wrong, then they have transgressed against themselves
and ultimately against God. Because, and again, whenever I talk about God, remember, we’re
talking about an absolute, not a religious Persona, but that which is the cause of everything, the
source of everything, that which is fundamentally good. And so since your soul and your spirit
are of God or from God, and they are there to guide you. And if you have gone against that
guidance and you have transgressed or sinned or done wrong against them, against their better
guidance, and therefore against what created them to guide you, which is God. So why would
we have done that? Well, if in such a case, we’ve done wrong because we’ve listened to our
ego, our desires, our literal self, for want of a better way of putting it. And so in that situation, if
we’ve wronged another person down here, there’s two part, there’s three parties involved. Your
higher self, I’ll bundle them together. There’s your higher self and God. There’s you and there’s
the party you have wronged. Now, if the party you have wronged forgives you, that’s nice, but
that doesn’t change the fact that your higher self and God know that you have done wrong. You
haven’t put it right with them.
So the ultimate forgiveness has to be that it comes from God. In other words, that you
atone, meaning you reach out to acknowledge what you have done and ask for forgiveness. And
then if you, if it’s sincere, then it’s not guaranteed. But if it’s sincere and you’re fundamentally
good, then there will be forgiveness. So then you’re putting it right with God and with your higher
self.
So then that leaves yourself, because people carry a lot of guilt around because they
can’t forgive themselves for something they’ve done. And so, yeah, forgiveness has these three
directions to it.
Now, if you are the person that has been wronged, based on what we’ve just been
discussing, then you have the opportunity to forgive. The person has wronged you, but that
doesn’t make them forgiven. That simply means that you have made a choice that’s positive.
And when you forgive someone who has wronged you, it’s not actually for their
benefit. Their benefit will only come if they seek forgiveness from God and ergo Jesus and
therefore their higher self. So they’re not changed by your forgiveness of them. But what it can
do is bring them on a lower level. In other words, it can bring their lower self, the part that did
wrong, some solace or peace of mind. Because if someone’s wronged me and I turn around and
say, it’s okay, you’re forgiveness, they haven’t settled the score higher up the stack, but there’s
no tension between me and them. So it can be a kindness to let someone know they’re forgiven,
but you haven’t actually forgiven them. They haven’t sought that higher forgiveness, and that’s
between them and their higher self and them and God, assuming that they are receptive to their
higher guidance and that they’re accepting of God. So your forgiveness does not change their
debt on a high level, but it can bring them peace if they know about it. If they don’t know about it,
then what would be the purpose of you forgiving them? Well, this is all about you. So if you
forgive someone, it’s actually for your benefit. And it normally means that you’re letting go.
Letting go of resentment, anger, blame, judgment of the situation, bitterness, a sense of injury. In
other words, you’re letting go of all the negative stuff that would actually harm you and hold you
back. So it is good to forgive, but the real reason why it’s good for you to forgive is it helps you. It
helps you heal, move on and raise your vibration back to being more positive. But it doesn’t help
them other than if you tell them. It might help them psychologically, but if they carry on doing
what they did or do it again, there’s been no growth and there’s been no change. So from a
spiritual perspective, to answer the question, how significant and important is forgiveness? It’s
actually very important. And hopefully now we understand that it’s about us letting go now. So if
you think about it, then the purest form of forgiving someone would be just forgiving them without
having to tell them. And if you did tell them, then it should only be, I say should if it’s not purely
out of , because you could see that it would help them.
If it’s to score a point or to show moral superiority or anything like that, then actually
that’s just ego.
So you really, I guess we have to check in with ourselves.
Where are we coming from? And so in my, I’ve had situations where I’ve been
wronged. I’m sure I’ve wronged people as well. That’s , where we’re going to make mistakes.
And it’s on reflection, perhaps, that we can grow from them and seek forgiveness, both as I’ve
described higher up and also with the other person, which brings up another dynamic. What if
someone approaches you and says, forgive me? Well, again, that doesn’t forgive them between
their higher selves and God, but if they’re at least acknowledging it, then that’s good.
So it should certainly be treated with respect.
But I guess there’s a difference between forgiveness and change. So have they
learned their lesson? Are they going to change? But we can’t judge that. That, again, is between
their higher selves and ultimately God. So when it comes to forgiveness, we should be very
neutral, perhaps minimalistic, because we’re not really going to save them by forgiving them.
We’re going to alleviate our own suffering.
And ultimately, I think it’s something that’s best approached with humility and grace.
So I hope that kind of answers the question.
You know, we’ve got the chat, so if you want to go into it some more or ask me to
clarify anything, as ever, then please feel free to just, you know, put some stuff in the chat
window there and I, we can expand on things. But thank you very much, by the way, to Marigold
Zero, who said, congratulations, mark 26 shows, so brilliantly presented. Well. Thank you. And
Panther nine who says, amazing half a year, well done and appreciate it. Well, likewise, I really
appreciate all the support. And remember, this show is your show. There wouldn’t be a show if it
wasn’t for really good kind of people like you who are spiritually seeking and asking what. What
are actually really good questions. So, talking of questions, shall we dive into the next question,
then? Let’s have a look where we are at. So, yeah, let’s see what the next question so Beverly
asks.
I don’t know if this is really a spiritual question, but as you have done a podcast
regarding this issue, it could be worth documenting it. Here on Rumble, I have a weird distaste
for smoking and thought it was dying out, but here in France, it’s crazily rampant to the point. I
quizzed a bar staff. Apparently it had been squashed for ten years, smoking outside or
something, lost in translation. But every. But everyone. And not joking, everyone in cafes sit and
smoke some vape and smoke. I had to go inside because it’s rubbish.
So, question is, is a group of humans being targeted to be ill and repressed? And is it
damaging beyond physical? And why are young people not aware of physical damages?
Okay, so there’s quite a few questions in there, but if we’re just succinctly putting it, in
France, it seems that a lot of people are smoking again. And is this because they’re being led to
it by, let’s just suggest, sinister forces or agents that are trying to make them ill?
And is there any damage just beyond the physical that’s being done? And the last
question, why are young people not aware of physical damages? So, you know, I think I made
the point last week or the week before that, actually.
You know, when you approach things from the higher vantage point, from a place of
more neutrality and perhaps detachment, then you can see that is in everything. So
there is no, you know, we could discuss anything and we could discuss it from a spiritual point of
view. So this question is. Falls onto that, that it is relevant. Now, the first thing I pick apart is that
young people are actually aware of the physical damages. So it’s not that they’re not aware and
they’re just acting in ignorance, it’s that they are aware. But again, on a case by case basis, it
might vary. But the general vibe gives some indication as to why in this particular culture,
France, that particular generation, are doing it. And it’s kind of a borderline anarchistic protest
against life in general, because there’s a sense of what’s the point, you know, which is sad,
really.
So that’s kind of why they doing it. Well, why some of them are doing it. But are they
being targeted? No, there isn’t a. An agency or an individual or a group that are trying to subvert
them.
I mean, that subversion was done a long time ago. What people need to understand it
goes back to like, the American Indians, you know, the way that they subverted them was to get
them addicted to alcohol and split cigarettes and things like this, and get them all drunk and get
them all detached from their culture and dependent on the invaders for the supply of these
things, you know, and you could make the same argument. It’s the same with things like drugs
and narcotics.
You could say. You could even say it’s the same with things like sky Sports and
football. You know, it’s a drug or it’s something that’s addictive to get people focused on what
doesn’t matter rather than what matters.
Interestingly, when it became clear to the pharmaceutical, to the tobacco companies,
that they were going to increasingly be on shaky ground, defending smoking as anything other
than bad, then they started buying up all the food companies and using their knowledge of how
to create a highly addictive substance that then they can sell at an over inflated price. And so
that’s why a lot of the cheaper, highly processed foods have a lot of chemicals in them that have
nothing to do with nutrition, but everything to do with making people addicted to them. It’s a
cigarette model all over again, just played out with food. And you can, you know, do your
research into that.
But the point is, in this case, France isn’t being targeted. The damage was done years
ago when, you know, it became quite a smoking. You know, the chic French Parisian, you know,
having their cigarette, it was part of culture and, you know, different cultures different things. I
noticed years ago in Italy that there wasn’t much of an alcohol culture, but a lot of smoking. In
England, there was a lot of alcohol and not so much smoking, but it’s picked up as well. So
different cultures do have a bit of a leaning towards different things.
But why are they. Why is it building up? Well, this is.
The French are wonderful in some respects. When. When McDonald’s tried to
establish its fast food chains in some of the towns in France, local farmers did things like
bulldozed them or deposited large amounts of manure in their foyer in protest. So the French
have quite a strong protest ethos or ethic. And the smoking thing is a bit of a protest thing,
because obviously the EU tried to ban smoking here, there and everywhere, and suppress it.
And I suspect, well, when you look into it from an energy and a thought perspective, then a large
driving force is this kind of.
Kind of a protest against the establishment.
But so the questions asked, apart from the physical, is there any damage? And it’s
twofold, really, because you said that. I’ve talked about this issue in a podcast. I haven’t really
talked about smoking, not really. I’ve mentioned it in passing, but I’ve talked much more about
things like Alaska, peyote, cannabis and things like that. And someone in the chat actually says
that it’s the same with weed in this country. I think they’re referring to England, that, you know,
people are smoking it left, right and centre. And I’ve certainly noticed just walking in town, you’ll
smell it more often than you used to as you’re passing places and people.
So I have mentioned things like drugs and medicinal herbs and things like this in the
past, and I’ll put a link to that particular article, because what it talks about is that a lot of these
things that people think are very great are actually damaging to our auras, damaging to our
energy systems, and may actually be formed of a better way, opening, opening the door to allow
negative things and negative energies and thoughts and I beings into us. And so there’s an
element of that with smoking.
But there is another aspect to it which I think is equally important, because I said,
look, young people are aware of the damage.
There’s no one really alive today, I don’t think, that doesn’t understand that smoking
fundamentally isn’t good for your . So a spiritual way of looking at this would be to ask the
question, what’s the spiritual consequence of deliberately doing something to your body that you
know deep down is not good for you? In other words, they’re inflicting self harm on themselves.
And there isn’t a good spiritual person, and by that I mean one that’s aligned with
wanting to be good and is receptive to their soul and their spirit. So when I say that, that’s what I
mean. There isn’t a good spiritual person that is smoking or doing narcotics or self harming
because they’re being guided to it by that which is trying to make them more spiritual and closer
to God and more aligned with what is good. So it’s only ever done in opposition to the inner
guidance that would be basically telling them, please don’t do that. You know? And so any form
of self harm that is known to be harm, even if people bury it on the fashion or social protest or
anything like that, if they know it to be harm in their brain, in their awareness, then to do it, is to
go against their higher self and is ultimately, therefore, to go against what is good, which means
to go against God. So there will be some kind of life lesson could probably more accurately be
described as life feedback. In other words, you’re making choices that aren’t aligned with being
spiritual and good. You’re not listening. So the volume is going to get turned up and then you’ll
start to manifest disease, and it might just start with a cough or something else, but. And it might
not be directly the kind of disease that you would think, oh, that’s smoking. So they’re going to
get a lung problem. It might be something else, but it’s going to be relevant to the message
because your body always is trying to speak your truth, because your higher self will use it as a
canvas to communicate with you when you ignore your higher self. And if this is all a bit, what’s
he talking about? Then I’ll put links to a podcast series of four podcasts where I talk about higher
self and guidance and how your body speaks your truth in terms of dis ease being feedback.
And there’s also a not for profit book where I go into this as well, because these are really good
resources if this is new to you, but it doesn’t just extend to smoking, for example. I mean, you’ve
seen in previous episodes, I’ve got a tattoo here. And there was a time when I was thinking of
getting tattoos all over me, but as I became more spiritual, it didn’t sit. And when I looked into it, I
realized that when you receive a tattoo, you are in pain and you’ve put yourself into a position
where you are in pain and it’s not for your benefit. It is ultimately to adorn your body, to change
your body in a way that it was never intended to be changed. Now, it doesn’t matter if tattoos are
ancient, it doesn’t matter if there’s cool symbology, it doesn’t matter if it’s the name of someone
that has passed away, which is mine, or anything like that. It doesn’t matter how you justify it to
yourself. It’s not actually positive thing. Now, most people don’t realize that. So when they do get
a tattoo, there’s not necessarily fallout, because they’re not arguing with their higher self, they
just don’t know.
But once you know, and this is my point, once you know that something isn’t good for
you and you pursue it, there will always be negative consequences. And so, you know, going
back to the question, don’t they, you know, aren’t they aware of the physical damages? Well,
yes, they are. So on some level, there’s going to be negative consequences from an energy and
spiritual point of view.
So, yeah, when it comes to, like, why do people in France smoke? We can only be
general, but if it was a case by case basis, one person might do it for one reason, another
person might do it for another reason, but the reason will never be spiritual, it will never be
guided. It will always be an act of ego, fundamentally, and depending on how much they know
about what they really should or should not be doing, from an energy and health point of view,
then the greater the fallout, because the higher you are, the more, the further you fall when you
make a bad choice.
So, yeah, there’s the, you know, the truth on this one.
And, yeah, we’ve touched on a few things actually just now to do with feedback and
life lessons and how your body speaks your truth, which actually leads nicely onto the next
question. But as ever, if you want me to revisit the one we’ve just answered, or to go into a little
bit more, then do let me know in the chat.
Right, so let’s have a look at the next question. And remember, these questions all
came from people just like you. And so I’m hoping that in answering them, it might help you,
even if you didn’t ask the question. Perhaps it’s something that’s relevant to you or relevant to
someone in your world, in your life. And in this way, then we’re hopefully making more sense of
life from a spiritual perspective, one question at a time. So we’ve got this, I think, very relevant
question anon asks a person I , is becoming more and more ill. The idea that pain and
illness is feedback, that something has got to change, is new to them. They do not believe they
have the choice to make change either. They have continued their actions, in this case, working
too hard, because they believe they have, because they believe they have to provide for their
family financially, which is true. They do.
Where is the best place to start with encouraging people to have hope for positive
change? Thank you. Well, thank you. First of all, I mean, it’s never easy discussing these things,
and I’ve had a conversation with this person offline, and I’ll respect their privacy, but I can
perhaps just clarify a few things in the question. So I would. From a spiritual point of view, I
wouldn’t use the word ill. I would use the word dis eased. And the reason being that it’s because
of dis ease, not being at ease, which means not being in the flow.
So that’s the first subtle thing I would reflect on in this question. And then the idea that
pain and illness is feedback.
What we have to understand is it’s commensurate feedback. In other words, the
lesson didn’t have to be painful, and the lesson didn’t have to be dis ease or illness.
It’s come about because the lesson has been repeatedly presented, the guidance has
been repeatedly given, and the person has chosen not to accept it for whatever reason. And
fundamentally, the reason will always come down to ego. And I don’t say that in any kind of
horrible, judgmental way.
You know, you could say, well, they’re scared. They’re scared of what? How will they
provide in this question? It’s, how will they provide for their family? Or. But fear always comes
from ego because, and again, I really appreciate that this is probably a massive reach for people
that haven’t really thought about life in a spiritual way.
So I’m coming at it from years and years of looking at this and seeing the bigger
picture, not completely, because none of us can do that, but seeing it well enough to start to see
how all the pieces drop into place. And trust me, my own life is full of mistakes from which I have
learned great things. You know, there’s a sort of t shirt once it says, I’ve. I’ve learned so much
from my mistakes, I’m planning on making some more. So I have. But I do have genuine
compassion for someone in this situation, because where do you start? You say, well, look, you
know, you’ve got a soul and a spirit. You’ve probably lost them at that point. So do you say, well,
you know, there’s God. Well, again, they’re probably going to be resistant to that. So you can’t
just say, look, your soul and your spirit are trying to guide you, and God will line things up if you
just ask for help.
So they’re, if they’re operating from a vacuum of not being able to process and
understand or accept that, then they really are responsible for their life, or that’s how they
perceive it. And so there will be fear because no one can know everything and be ready for
everything and have all the answers. So if you’ve put yourself in a position where you have to
know what to do and you know how to provide and where the money’s coming from, you haven’t
got anything in your life that says that you don’t have to have the answers for.
If you know that there is something greater than you and it is benevolent and that if
you pray or ask for guidance, then it may well come. And answers and solutions will arrive. Not
necessarily what you expect, but they will arrive. Well, then you’re also acknowledging you don’t
have to have all the answers and you don’t have to be in control.
So someone who’s getting sick because they can’t change, because they don’t think
they can change is stuck in this fear loop, which is ultimately ego, because ego is saying, I have
all the answers and I am in control, whereas the truth is you don’t have all the answers and
you’re not in control. So going back to the question, that gives us a bit of a hint as to the kind of
one way that we can start to help them, and it might just be a gentle look, you don’t have to have
all the answers.
Just what do you want? Do you want to find a better way of providing? Then just
acknowledge that, you know, and some people, look, some people will pray and they’ll pray for
it. What harm could it do? Just try it on. Because all you’re doing then is you’re saying that you
don’t have to have all the answers. And maybe, just maybe, there’s something out there that can
help.
So that might be too much for them, but you have to gauge it where they’re at, but
understanding where they’re at, which is that they haven’t allowed in the possibility of something
greater than them, guiding them, helping them, assisting them and showing them in the way,
then they’re having to act like God, and that’s ego. So understanding that, then you can start to
spot it and go, okay, just a gentle word here, like, you know, it’s all right if you don’t have all the
answers, you know? And it’s alright if you fail.
And it’s all right if you want to try different things. In other words, almost like giving
them permission to be a little bit more flexible and not be in control might just help move them in
the right direction.
And then you can always kind of third party and say, hey, I saw this interesting video
on rumble. Some spiritual guy was saying that sometimes when we’ve got recurring injuries or
recurring pain, it could actually be like a higher message from our, higher, from our, you know,
that part of us that’s still are trying to tell us that we’re going in the wrong direction. And what we
can do is just look literally at it like, is it your elbows? Okay, well, does that mean that you’re
elbowing your way a bit too, kind of aggressively through life? Or is it your hands? Is it like trying
to tell you that, how you’re handling things, maybe you’re clinching, you know, you’re too, too
rough or trying too hard? Or is it your knees? Like, you feel like you’ve got too much weight to
carry and you’re crumbling under the burden, you know, is your body trying to tell you
something? And, you know, you haven’t had to introduce concepts that maybe they’re not ready
for, but that by doing it in a third person, like you’re saying, well, I didn’t say that, but this is what
I saw. And it kind of, maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. Why don’t we think about it?
You know, so there’s, it’s kind of like meeting them where they are, whatever we know
doesn’t help them. And if we’re talking on a level that’s too spiritual, then it will just push them
away and it will make them feel like, oh, you’re trying to blame me for being sick, or thank you
very much, that’s not very supportive.
But even just changing the language, like, instead of ill or illness, I would say, oh, your
body’s getting. Your body’s letting you know something there and that might just be enough.
What’s your body trying to tell you? And I’ve been in this situation where I’ve literally said this to
strangers and they’ve just accepted it because truth rings true. You know, they didn’t necessarily
understand it all. But this brings me on to another thing, and this is actually another big part of
this. So, you know, if you’ve been watching the show for a while or you’ve read the book, then
you probably understand that your body speaks your truth and that, you know, for example, if
you’ve got headaches all the time, maybe you’re thinking negative thoughts. If you’ve got bad
knees, you’re feeling too much burden, if your hips are hurting, then you’re struggling to change
direction, etc, etcetera. And it makes perfect sense. Okay, so just picking up on something in this
question, then it says they have continued their actions, in this case, working too hard. So I’m
guessing the lesson is that they need to change the type of work that they do, and they’ve
continued because they don’t believe they have any choice, which is based on fear of letting the
family down, etcetera.
So the idea that they don’t believe they have a choice to make change either.
What I know about this situation is that they have actually started to make some
positive changes, but that hasn’t been reflected in a cessation or a lessening of the dis ease in
their body.
And this was the other part I wanted to explain is that. And this goes for us. So this
applies to us, this applies to you and to me.
Say, for example, I don’t know, you banged your head. Okay? Cupboard doors open,
you banged your head. Now that means really that whatever you were just thinking isn’t a good
thought. And you’ve just banged your head, literally, to get your attention to the thoughts in your
head. And the interesting thing is, if it hurts, it will carry on hurting unless you realize what the
thought was or you’ll bang your head again.
But if you realize what the thought you had or the general vibe of it, and you kind of
acknowledge it and you go, oh, yeah, I need to stop doing that. Then the pain goes away and
you won’t bang your head again.
So there’s two parts to it. Recognizing that things are feedback is part of it, but unless
you actually change, it will just carry on. And so imagine a situation where you are guiding a
friend, and you’ve looked at the situation, you’ve looked at their illness, you’ve looked at their
injury or recurring problem, and you’ve tweaked. Ah, it’s this.
And say, for example, it’s the problems manifest in their career choice. Okay? The
underlying problem is actually their decision making process, but it’s manifested out into their
career choice. So you try and explain to them you need to work in a different way. The
environment you’re working in is too aggressive, it’s too low vibration, it’s bringing you down and
so you need a job that’s more peaceful, blah, blah, blah. And so they, they go, okay, and they
trust you and they love you or whatever, and so they change, they change their job, they apply
for a better job. Maybe on, on some basic level they get it. Oh yeah. Well, I would rather have a
job that’s, I don’t know, less aggressive and more, you know, peaceful and kind on my body.
That makes sense in here. But what hasn’t happened is they haven’t made the connection, they
haven’t understood their life lesson. And their life lesson in this particular thing might be to value
themselves, to not put themselves in harm way in harm’s way, to not put up with people
disrespecting them. So they’ll change their job or it might be change the relationship or it might
be change where they live or change their house, but they haven’t actually learned the lesson.
And guess what’s going to happen? The disease and the illness or the injuries or the
things going wrong are going to come back again and again and again and again. Because it’s
not actually about implementing change, it’s about learning the lesson. And in fact, if they learnt
the lesson then they could actually stay in that job because they would have changed in their
attitude and they were put into place a new attitude. And then it isn’t necessary necessarily for
them to leave that job or that environment because they’re now different in it. But the chances
are if it is the path of least resistance and for the greater good, then they’ll be guided anyway to
leave it. But it’s almost like the changing of the job or the changing of the demonstration of who
they are is secondary. It’s not as important as the change in attitude which comes from
understanding what the feedback was all about, what the lesson was all about. And so people
don’t necessarily get that. And people that are trying to help others will tell them what they need
to do. Like, well, you need to change your job or you need to get out of that relationship and
that’s why youre feet are hurting or that’s why your teeth are hurting or that’s why this is
happening or you’ve got this disease or your heart’s failing, you need to do x, Y and z, but the
person has to actually learn the lesson and fundamentally change. Then everything will flow with
ease. So going back to the question, what can we do to encourage people to have hope for
positive change? Well, see, that part of the question is really addressing the fact that this person
doesn’t believe they have choice.
And so when someone doesn’t feel they have choice, they’re basically saying that
they believe that they are limited or that the situation or the environment is limited.
And that’s where you need to lever things and say, okay, well look, you can’t see a
choice at this time, but do you maybe do you entertain that someone else in your situation might
be able to find a different kind of thing? Well, how do other people approach this? In other
words, you know, if they can’t deal with it themselves, externalize it, help them to process it by
looking at others.
But how can we encourage people to have hope for positive change? Addresses the
lack of choice. But remember that situation is because they’re in their ego. So really embracing
humility or encouraging them to be more humble and say, that’s right, you can’t see all of the
choices, but that doesn’t mean they’re out there. They’re not out there. See, you’re taking their
limits and saying that something is bigger, so that’s more humble. So it’s okay to acknowledge
that right now you can’t see a way out, but do you want to get out of this? Okay, so that’s them
starting to affirm the change. Do they understand why they need to change? So this is my point.
Unless you have that conversation with them and it comes from them, in other words, you’re not
telling them, you’re giving them the safe space, neutrality, loving acceptance to say, hey, let’s
have this chat about your life.
Where do you think, I mean, you know, if your body’s not well, then something’s not
right. So maybe, maybe we need to look at this and I’m here for you. So where do you think
your, because everything starts with a thought or an idea of belief. So where do you think you’re
thinking about things or your about things are holding you back? What would you like to
change? And then how would you like that change to come out in the world? You know, so that
would be a gentle way of getting them to start to think about things in the right order. In other
words, the way you’re thinking leading to problems. So let’s not deal with a problem because
that’s too overwhelming. Let’s deal with how you think. Because if you change that, maybe you’ll
start to see other alternatives to your situation and you’ll start to have more choice. And by the
way, it’s all right not to see the choices. There we go, interjecting a bit of humility. So hopefully
that’s of help. And if not, or if you need me to go into it some more, then please do leave a
comment in the chat.
But we’ve just had a little while ago a comment come up. So Panther nine is saying,
this situation is so common in the UK, earning money and outgoings don’t add up. However,
modern living can be a drain on people’s mental mind. Yeah, that’s the. So again, what we’re
looking at there is the end result of an attitude.
You could say, look, yeah, the environment is putting these pressures on people, but
they do have choice. Can move to Poland, you know, or they could forego some of the things
that they don’t really need, or they could look at their living situation or relocate or skill up or, you
know, someone’s always doing all right.
So the question isn’t, why is everything going wrong? It’s what. How’s your thought
process and your values and your beliefs led you into this dead end, you know?
And again, if there isn’t ease and things aren’t flowing, then the warning sign should
be there that go back to humility.
Ask God for help, pray to Jesus, pray to God.
And then, you know, one of the things I would pray in that situation is I don’t have all
the answers, could you please help me, to guide me or I pray that I am awake to the
opportunities that you are probably already putting in my path, you know, so just things to think
about, really. I’m sure we can revisit this question as well, because it is actually, you know, it’s
about one third of life.
And I’m not saying, by the way, all illness and all disease. What I’m referring to here is
illness. Stroke, disease, stroke, injury, stroke, accident. That is a direct result of our own thinking
and our own feedback, having ignored our higher self. But that doesn’t account for illicit injury
and illness and disease, which would be brought about by the misfortune of the negative
intentions and desires of others against you, which is something I have touched on in one of the
episodes where I talked about cancer and how disease can be brought about in people that are
actually good and innocent, irrespective of whether or not they’re going with the flow and stuff
like this. So, you know, we shouldn’t be a hammer and say all disease is feedback. It’s not. But
we’re. The person is in control, because it is feedback, then a gift it is, and what a kindness and
compassion it is to try and help them. And that’s why I salute this question because it clearly
comes from a place of compassion. So how are we doing for time? Right. 943. So time is flying.
Now, the reason why I’m going to show you this is to give us all an opportunity, first of all, to
practice some of the stuff I’ve talked about in previous episodes. So I know that this is a bit of a
trigger. And it says, caught on camera. Satanic ritual of for a new female member of.
Question mark. Question mark. Question mark. Held at CERN. British, swiss, and german
members were present.
Now, it’s not, you know, the picture is at night time and people in hooded cloaks. It’s
very.
Not a very clear picture because it was filmed by someone who they didn’t know was
there, who was filming it through a glass window at quite some distance on a. On a mobile
phone at nighttime. But all of these shadowy figures are lit by floodlights. And there’s a big
statue of Shiva, which is right by the front entrance of CERN. And this is clearly done at about
midnight. And so you’ve got all these shadowy characters with their hooded cowls. And so the
reason, you know, that could trigger a bit of reaction in people. And the reason why I want to
bring it up is if we react with fear, that’s part of the basis of the control of those that are negative,
is they want people to be scared of them. So I want us to be able to observe something like this
in pure neutrality and just come at it from a spiritual point of view of observance.
Not reacting emotionally, not going into fear, not going into, oh, what’s this got to do
with spirituality or anything like that? And just observing it and seeing what it can teach us.
Because one of the greatest ways to take power away from those who are dark is to bring what
they do into the light, not to accept it, not to justify it, but just simply say, we are not intimidated,
and truth will come out of. So I’m going to show you. This is, like, ten second clip, and there’s no
audio on this.
Okay, so this was from someone’s instagram, I believe. But what, this is the guy
filming, and obviously, it’s been edited. So what we’re seeing is these shadowy figures moving
into position. And then there’s some. A woman walks up, and then a woman comes from behind
and pulls off the shoal of the one that is being indoctrinated in or initiated in, leaving them what
looks like naked.
And it’s a woman who’s having her cowl or hooded cloak removed. And it’s a woman
who’s officiating in front of them.
So, you know, at least it’s not just patriarchy. It’s not just men. It’s. There’s a bit of
equality here.
But this is what we’re looking at now. They did not want this filmed, and they’re very
annoyed that this has come out.
And the information I’ve given you wasn’t discussed anywhere. So I’ve said. What
have I said? That it’s.It’s british, swiss, and german members and that it was a new female member, and
it’s actually of the new world Order. Now, that information isn’t available anywhere. But that’s
why I’m giving you this, is to simply demonstrate the truth, which is that the truth is there, and it
can be got, you know, if you sit in. I mean, so we’ve talked about in episode one, my spiritual
journey, and how I’ve been fortunate enough, blessed enough to have attained certain levels of
awareness which takes you beyond the limits of, you know, the physical world and things like
this. And when you’re able to sit in a space that is so neutral that it contains everything, then it
also contains all information.
So I’m simply giving a little bit more information than is known to demonstrate that the
truth can and will come out. And you notice there’s no sensationalization in my attitude. There’s
no fear. It’s just simply observing what is going on and saying, okay, so this dark group who are
meeting at night covered with hooded cows, you know, in secret, there’s clearly nothing good
going on there. So now we have the discussion. Why would they be doing this at Cern?
Well, if you remember back to. I can’t remember if it was episode six, seven
roundabout there, I talked about quite a few things. One of the things that came up was
buddhistic mantras that invoke the name Satan and how number six is a negative number. And
that if you look at the logo of CERN, it’s the number 666. So let’s just see if we can.
Let’s see if we can find that. So, yeah, here we go. So here’s the logo of CERN, and
this is the artwork from the thumbnail. So we’ve got this guy blowing smoke rings. And that was
a reference to the people in France smoking. But the reason why I chose this particular picture is
because this man being dressed in black and business suit represents those three letter
organizations that are really running the show and the ruling families, you know, so they’re quite
a satanic influence, if you like. Now, the people at CERN weren’t worshipping Satan.
They did it at that site because they know the significance of CERN and how it’s a
very negative and dark thing. And that’s why the logo of CERN is literally six, six, six. You. Can
we. If I point in the right direction, just. Yeah, I was just pointing out there. So if you look at this
logo, it is literally 666. And what that is, it’s mapping out the particle paths for the three spirals
that make up the main research facility at Switzerland, CERN. And in that facility is this massive
statue of Shiva, the God of destruction and dance.
And Shiva is surrounded by a ring of fire.
So I thought it was rather appropriate that we got smoke rings. And that ring of Fire
literally was a foretelling of the creation of the Large Hadron Colliders and the particle
accelerators. The first one that was of significance was 1968.
And the reason why that shadowy organization was meeting at that site is because
that site is the culmination of thousands of years of their work and planning to create technology
that is literally satanic and demonic. And the art, the little article that had that video on, I’ll put a
link to the original to credit. The original author was making a point that CERN is a very
dangerous thing and that it may open up interdimensional wormholes or tunnels. I can’t
remember which word they used, but, you know, I’ve talked a little bit about CERN, and I do go
into it a lot more in the books, but we need to bring this stuff to light and we need to be able to,
even if this isn’t what we think spirituality is, we need to be able to look at things in a place of
neutrality and just say, what’s going on here. So, for example, someone in the chat has said,
why have they got cloaks on? It’s very, very sinister. Well, yes, it is very sinister.
If we take the cloak out of it and just.Or take the emotions out of it and just say, what’s a cloak achieve? It hides people.
So there is, um. So you’re hiding. So there’s a lack of being truthful and honest. Like, here I am,
I’m. I’m sat here and I’m talking about things without a mask on or anything like this. We’re not
hiding anything. So the truth doesn’t need to hide. Deception always needs to hide.
So there’s symbology in everything and then why, you know, they took her cloak off
so she was exposed so she was vulnerable. Meaning we have power over you because you
don’t know who we are, but you are known to us. That’s partly the symbology there. And then
they did it in front of this statue of Shiva on the site of basically one of the most dark, evil
installations on the planet. Literally, it’s. I can’t remember, it’s 60 miles across. But if you looked
at it from above and you looked at these particle traces, it is literally with energy tracing out six
six six. So anyone who’s dark and satanic is going to be reveling in that sight. And, you know,
why is it important that we know this? Because the truth is the truth is the truth.
Am I saying this to make us scared? No, I’m saying this because the truth will
empower you and set you free. Now, if you’re. If any of you are feeling a little bit uncomfortable
with this topic, that is fear.
And fear comes from ego.
You know, ego has many faces, but any negative emotion is ultimately from fear. I. So
I partly did this just as a bit of a trigger to see how would. How to give us an opportunity to see
how we react to something that’s a little bit more sinister. As someone has said, this is very
sinister.
And now we will move on. Now, we’ve still got a few minutes, which is good, because
at the last minute, I got this question coming in just not long before the show, and it’s a long one,
so I’ll just dive straight in. Thank you, Toshi, for asking this question.
I’ll just read it out.
So I quote, I came across something recently that I found interesting about food in
particular, saying, basically that all things deemed, quote, not good in society are inherently bad,
but what there?
But that there, the action comes from within you, determines its merit. For example, if
it’s you and your greed consuming chocolate, the consequences will be an accumulation of fat,
shame, and guilt. If it’s the universe eating chocolate out of love and gratitude because it’s a
beautiful act, perhaps the result is a continuous flow of love, energy, and appreciation for life. It’s
not to encourage hedonism, but more about perception. From small you to big you, where you
may eat the chocolate, smoke a joint, dance at the party till sunrise, etcetera. It’s about coming
from a different place, experiencing the beauty of the universe, experiencing itself instead of self
serving desires, essentially suggesting living in each moment fully without internal conflict is true
freedom. Breaking it down, the idea suggests to me it’s not having carte blanche to do as we
please. At all times, rather that our attitude to what we do, how we feel about it individually, will
determine its effect upon us. Where does this ethos sit from a spiritual perspective?
The short answer is that there is quite a sinister undertones and that this ethos, quote
unquote, has been deliberately fostered over a long period of time. You know, the first time that
these kinds of ideas.
Well, not the first time. For example, the celebration in December that the Romans
used to have, which got rolled into the idea of being in December, was basically orgy,
gorging, food party, you know, followed by murdering the criminals type thing. So hedonism, by
the way, is the pursuit of pleasure as a. As a matter of ethical principle. So, buddhism, you know,
talking about escaping the pain and suffering of life by seeking feeling good, in essence, is a
hedonistic approach.
Hedonism, an ethical system that evaluates the pursuit of pleasure as the highest
good. So if we go back to this, what they’re basically saying is, if you are doing these things that
society says aren’t good, like smoking a joint, eating lots of chocolate, dancing all night, and we
can probably extrapolate to other things like open, you know, and sex for the
enjoyment of it, etcetera.
If you’re doing it coming from the highest place, then it’s positive because the
universe is experiencing this joy through you. That’s the fundamental argument for justifying it,
not as hedonism, although actually that explanation is hedonistic because it makes it an ethical
choice. You’re saying I’m doing this for the universe. I’m not doing this for me. I’m not doing this
to satisfy my lust and desire or my curiosity. I’m doing this so that the universe can experience
through me all of these joys. That’s fundamentally what this belief system is saying, and it’s
fundamentally not true. Okay, let me justify that because, you know, as was said in the previous
episode, well, Mark, you can say anything doesn’t make it true. You know, and even if I explain
it, it doesn’t make it true. So you have to wrestle with this. You have to come to your own
conclusions. But let’s just break a few things down.
The example given, let’s just see if I can highlight it. So if it’s your greed, here we go.
If it’s your greed consuming chocolate, the consequences will be getting fat, etcetera. So there is
some truth in this. Let me explain.
Physically and energetically, eating a sugary sweet will have an effect on you, and it
will be the net effect of the vibrations of the. Whatever it is, chocolate or whatever. So some
things have a negative vibration. Some things have a positive vibration like healthy fruit and veg
that’s free of contaminants and has been grown in a nice natural environment. It’s very vibrant,
positive and supportive of your body. Highly processed things that have been made by people
who are very angry or, you know, depressed or whatever will have quite a negative vibration.
And then even in nature, some things that grow and everyone goes, oh, lovely, make tea out of
that. Well, actually its natural vibration is negative. So it’s not actually net positive, it’s net
negative. So whatever we put in us has vibration energetically and it’s either more positive or
more negative. So you can’t escape that. Whatever you put into you, it will have that effect.
Okay, so chocolate will have the same effect, that that vibrational effect will be the same for
everyone, okay? But if you then pile on top of that, I shouldn’t be having this chocolate.
And then, oh, I feel guilty now because I was only going to have one square and I’m
just eating half a kilo of chocolate. Okay, so now I’ve got not only the vibration of half a kilo of
chocolate in me, but I’ve got my own guilt, which is negative emotions, my own shame, which is
negative again. And therefore my body is going to manifest shame, it’s going to manifest guilt.
And I’m going to create negative energy in me, centred around these negative emotions. And so
I’m going to become more negative. And if I become more negative, my health is going to
become compromised. So is it the chocolate that made my health get compromised or was it my
attitude?
It’s both.
But it’s almost like, well, that chunk came from the chocolate, irrespective of how you
felt, but you’ve added on top your own vibration now. So the flip side of that is, if you go, I am
grateful for this chocolate and I am going to enjoy it and radiate joy and be spiritual about it.
Well, then the effect of those positive attitudes and those positive ideas and stuff will be positive,
but the effect of the chocolate will still be the same as it would be in the other person. So we
need to separate things out. What you put into you has an effect and your attitude has an effect.
So, as with a lot of, I could say as with a lot of deception, I’m not saying this is outright
deception. I’m saying it’s just not true. And it may be well intentioned but misunderstood.
And we can give people the benefit of the doubt and say, that’s what it is. But there is
some truth that how you feel and your attitude affects your vibration, that’s different from what is
the vibration of this thing and the effect of this thing that I put into me. And so the examples in
here are eating chocolate, partying all night, smoking a joint. Well, going back to what I said in
one of the earlier questions, that anything that you do that is nihilistic, self destructive, harmful,
there will never be a spiritual guidance to do it, and there will never be a spiritual outcome from
it. So fundamentally, you’d be kidding yourself if you were trying to justify it by saying, I’m doing
this for the benefit of the universe, and I’m aware of the time, but I’ll carry on.
So I apologize if we roll over a little bit, but we’re not right in this.
So when people, what, you know, what do people mean when they say the universe?
In fact, while I’m feel free to write just one sentence in the chat, what the universe means or
what you believe the universe means, because that’s the big red flag that I’m seeing in this
whole thing.
So there, what’s being said here is the beauty of the universe experiencing itself.
If you think about it, that would say that the universe is hedonistic. Why does the
universe need to experience these things? Because whatever the universe is, if we’re using this
justification, isn’t the cause of joy.
Straight away I would say, okay, so what created the universe? Because on my
spiritual journey, I encountered what some people refer to as the universal oneness or the
universal consciousness or the universal awareness, and then I transcended it.
So it can’t be the be all and end all. And if you want to use terminology, then beyond
universe.
So we got the notion of planet or plane and then planethood, and then we’ve got the,
in general speak, there’s the notion of solar system and galaxy and then the universe. And then
what about universes?
And then what about cosmos?
And then what’s beyond that?
So there is only one thing that if you keep going, you cannot get past, and that is
goddesse. Okay? And Millie’s saying in the chat, so I guess what referenced is universe as
source, but what made the universe? You see, if I’ve gone beyond universal awareness, then it
cannot be the source of everything. Something had to create it. And this is where I said that it’s a
bit nefarious because the idea of universe, and I touched on this in a previous episode where
someone said, oh, well, I pray to the universe, and I said, no, I pray to Jesus because Jesus is
God, one and the same.
We talked about forgiveness earlier, and Jesus can forgive because Jesus is God.
Jesus can answer prayers because Jesus is God, you know, unique. Now, the
universe is an idea created by those higher up to create a false God, keeping things really
simple. In other words, if we can get them to stop focusing on that which is truly the source of
everything, that which is truly good, and instead introduce some kind of benevolent thing, a
concept, then we can mislead them and lead them astray. And then this idea that’s being
discussed here, that isn’t it for the greater good that you smoke a joint, party all night and eat
lots of chocolate if you’re coming from the right place of being one with the universe and doing it
for the benefit of the universe? No, it’s not, because you would never be guided by God to do
these things.
So the universe is actually a con in the sense that the moment people personify it and
identify it as being some kind of benevolent thing, it’s not. And it’s actually there now as a
holding identity that those things that first planted the seeds of that idea can now assume, oh,
yes, I am the universe. I am guiding you.
Okay, well, who created you?
So from a spiritual point of view, this falls down a little bit, because God doesn’t need
you to experience these extremes of, you know, like smoking joints and eating too much of
these, you know, sweets and parting till sunrise. And basically doing what we know
fundamentally isn’t good for us. Okay.
Keeping things really simple.
Human beings are meant to experience love, and they’re meant to experience joy,
and it’s meant to be done in a harmonious, natural way.
And if you need to smoke chemicals or herbs, then you’re saying that God made you
deficient. God made a mistake. And the only way you can compensate for that mistake, the only
way you can experience what you’re supposed to experience as a human being, is to make up
for God’s mistake by introducing this plant. And some people will say, yeah, but why did God put
that plant there?
Why did he give us the knowledge? Well, then I would say, so how do you know it
was God that put that plant there?
And how do you know that it was God that gave us that knowledge?
But, you know, if I said to you, okay, the only way that you can be complete is to plant
this computer chip into your brain, have these devices attached to your back that inject
chemicals into your spine so that you get the right amount of endorphin and melatonin and it can
control your sleep, you know, because then you’ll be a better human or then you’ll be a perfect
human.
Well, then you’re saying, right, okay, so God’s messed up being a human and we
need to intervene and fix it and add all these things. And then you say, okay, well, so what about
the people that can’t get them? Are you saying that they therefore don’t have the opportunity?
So what about all the people that couldn’t get access to cannabis? Or what about all the people
that physically or emotionally or mentally or whatever, don’t have the stamina to dance till
sunrise or are allergic to chocolate? Are they less spiritual or less capable? So whenever. The
bigger picture here is whenever the pursuit of something that either has to introduce something
into our bodies, like a chemical or a drug or a narcotic or ayahuasca peyote, etcetera, smoking,
drinking, whatever it is, DMT or any of these psychotrophs, then it’s probably not really the rightway.
And anything where you would, if you did it and you weren’t in a good mood, it would
be damaging to you, is damaging to you. You can’t hide the damage by being in a good mood.
Okay, so saying, well, if I orientate towards love and orientate towards this universe or even
God, does it make it acceptable? No, because if it’s bad for you when you’re in a bad mood, it’s
bad for you when you’re in a good mood.
It’s as simple as that. So this actually, on the surface it seems plausible, but in reality,
this is actually quite a sinister ethos that is being promoted here. And it’s not spiritual. You are
already perfect. You are already ready for God and Jesus in your life and you are already being
guided to that end.
So there is no benevolent universal consciousness, universal love, universal oneness
that you need to sacrifice yourself to in order to become more spiritual and certainly not in a way
that you’re doing what, you know, wouldn’t be good for you if you were not in a good mood. So
hopefully, I mean, time presses on, but hopefully it kind of clarifies that this idea, which is, you
know, quite interesting, I’m really grateful to Toshi for bringing it up and sharing it with us, but it’s
not good in origin and it just lends itself to a lot of the attitudes that are actually degrading the
quality of society. You know, that it’s not about one truth that is consistent for all people. It’s
about your own truth. It’s not about.
It’s not about less is more, and that you are already valuable and worthy. It’s about
you belonging to something like this. The idea of the universe or doing things like drugs or
smoking or excess to bring about worthiness, to sacrifice yourself to the greater good. No, you
already have an intimate relationship with God. You just have to listen to your spirit and your
soul.
So, yeah, from a spiritual perspective, this ethos being blunt, what I would say is bad,
you know, satanic.
And that is the last question. So thank you, guys. I appreciate you hanging in there for
the extra ten minutes, but that was a very good question. Tosche, thank you for asking it. Thank
you for bringing it up so that we could all explore it. And on that note, I will say thank you
wherever you are. Whether you’re live with me now or watching again, please do leave comment
feedback. Um, if you’re watching a podcast or anything, do leave a review as well. That would
really help. But for now, I will say simply, thank you for joining us. God bless you, and be well,
wherever you are.
Hello, this is Mark Zaretti, and I wanted to thank you for taking the time to listen to this
podcast. If you’re looking for more spiritual resources, then definitely check out
thewaybackgroup.org. and if you’ve enjoyed this, then I highly recommend my other podcast,
which is called the Way back to spiritual Awakening. I look forward to joining you on our next live
show, podcast.

00:00:34 Welcome & Introduction

We acknowledge that this is the 26th episode, half a year of broadcasting, and thanks to all who support the show. We start by looking at the artwork, a man in a suit blowing smoke rings and in the rings are the CERN logo and a effigy of Shiva. I mention that each Thursday morning before the live show I do a live stream on our Locals community where I preview the questions and create the artwork giving more insight into the choice of images.

00:03:19 When and How to Forgive, a spiritual perspective

The first question is about forgiveness. We look at the spiritual significance of when you forgive versus when you need to be forgiven. Understanding the need for forgiveness and what that means in terms of your spirit and soul. What can we do if we have done wrong and what could we do if we have been wronged? Where do God and/or Jesus fit into the process when you seek to forgive? Do you benefit from forgiving others and do they benefit from being forgiven? What is the purest form of forgiveness you can do?

00:12:15 The spiritual significance and harm of people smoking

Are dark forces behind the rise in smoking in people in France? Are young people acting in ignorance or in denial of the facts? What is behind the cultural shift? I draw parallels with how the American Indians were subverted by getting them addicted to alcohol. But are there parallels with drugs, Sky Sports, and modern day highly processed food?

Is there also a cultural component, the chic Parisian icon of a smoking lady? Is it also just part of their protest ethic. Smoking in rebellion against the EU establishment. Beyond the physical is there damage. I refer to my earlier work on the dangers of Ayahuasca, Peyote, Cannabis and how there can be damage from them to your aura and also how they allow darker forces to come into you.

Then I explore the bigger picture of any form of willing self-harm, such as smoking is, and how that impacts upon you as a spiritual person. This ties into the four part podcast series on “Spiritual Life Explained“. I discuss how having tattoos is also a form of self-harm from a spiritual perspective. Is there a difference between doing something in ignorance versus doing it with knowledge that it is wrong?

00:24:27 Helping a loved one to learn their life-lessons

How can you help someone who is growing increasingly unwell because of an unlearnt . We also look at the role of limiting self-beliefs. Is there a difference between “Illness” and “Disease”? Do all life-lessons need to be painful? Why do people reject higher guidance? What role does fear and ego play. How can we help someone who isn’t ready to discuss God, soul, spirit, and life-lessons?

We explore gentle ways of guiding someone who isn’t as awake. Helping them to let go of ideas of being responsible for everything. Using the 3rd person perspective as a tool to inspire new ways of thinking in a person without it being confrontational or too personal.

Then I explain why sometimes making positive changes in life do not result in a cessation of the health problems. Finally I close with an example of how a person might pray for guidance in such a situation. I do mention that not all disease is just or a consequence of life-learning, but rather may come from dark external forces. This references Ep.009 where I discuss the dark side of Cancer.

00:43:14 CERN, Shiva and Satanic rituals

I reveal that a nighttime Satanic ritual at CERN had British, Swiss and German participants. It was the initiation of a woman into the New World Order, conducted by a woman. I explain why they held this at CERN. But the importance is to demonstrate that truth will come to light.

I then discuss the artwork symbolism, how the CERN logo has “666”within it. I tie this in with the statue of Shiva and the New World Order’s plans.

00:53:06 Is hedonism justified? Universal Consciousness

There is an idea that if we are aligned with “Universal flow and love” then we can do things to excess like eating chocolate, partying and dancing through the night, smoking joints etc, without negative impact. But if we have guilt then we suffer. I explain whether there is truth in this or not and how there are parallels with Buddhism. I also reflect on Ep.025 on the burden of truth. I separate out the energy of things from the energy of your thoughts and intentions.

Next I debunk the notion of “Universe” as some sort of benevolent presence. I talk about the difference between praying to or respecting the universe, versus praying to or respecting Jesus and/or God, from a spiritual perspective. Is “The Universe” a con? Is the natural way of being a human deficient in something that requires medicinal herbs and medicine. Or perhaps justifies the implanting of technology and injections? Is this hedonistic attitude actually degrading society?

Links to resources mentioned in this episode:

Thank you for listening to this show. If you’d like more spiritual content then check out “The Way Back to Spiritual Awakening” podcast and visit TheWayBackGroup.org where you’ll find loads of free resources to help you get the most from your spiritual journey. Check out my books and films. – Mark

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